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advman89
post Feb 28 2022, 09:09 PM
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I'm in the depths of a full dash replacement and I'm need to figure out a situation.

I have a couple things to address.

FUSE 11 (Hazard / Interior Light) has never worked-dead short immediately. I thought I remember someone saying that I need to look at the ground under the passenger seat and the passenger door switch as possible issues there. But I also have a some weirdness with the Hazard too...

There is a new square relay installed and some wires cut in from the factory hazard switcher. The turn signals are all working, but I need to get the hazards operational.
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And on top of that, I discovered this red wire, long melted...will splice in a new wire, but thought the group might be able to point me in a direction.

I know I have a color wiring chart...off to the archives for it to start looking for things.

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post Mar 1 2022, 04:48 AM
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About the blue/white wire shorted to the brown wire on the flasher, likely the flasher installed does not drive the K/C2 pin as the OEM flasher did so the PO shorted the blue/white wire to brown wire basically shorting K/C2 to ground which is what I do for the EP26 LED-compatible flasher as shown below.

It could be too that the flasher installed only has 3 pins and doesn't have the K/C2 pin at all. If the Left and Right turnsignals work, then the flashers will work too as long as the flasher switch is functional.


For that burned red wire, at some point the wire tried to pretend to be a fuse but looks like it failed as a fuse and just melted the insulation. If you wanted to remove that wire from service, find out where it starts and ends and just add a new wire and leave the original wire in the loop as it would be nearly impossible to remove the old wire.


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post Mar 1 2022, 07:25 AM
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QUOTE(Spoke @ Mar 1 2022, 05:48 AM) *

If you wanted to remove that wire from service, find out where it starts and ends and just add a new wire and leave the original wire in the loop as it would be nearly impossible to remove the old wire.


I usually agree with @Spoke 100% but I would simply cut the cloth harness wrap, then remove the offending melted segment.

The reason is that when a wire melts this badly, it often melts adjacent wires in the harness which can lead to random shorts later on. At best some of the adjacent wires simply have melted but compromised insulation. I do get there is a theory that if there is no short there, leave well enough alone. That isn't the way I was trained as a electronics tech.

I'd fish out the melted red one (and any other adjacent wires that have melted insulation), and splice in a new section then re-wrap the harness. I think 914Rubber even sells cloth harness tape. If they don't it's widely available at other electrical supply houses.

I would also go back and get rid of the stupid quick splice connectors - those things are junk. Whenever I see those I immediately know the quality of the workmanship that has been done prior.

Finally, you need to find root cause of what caused the red wire to short in the 1st place before replacing the melted segment unless you wish to do the whole thing over again in the future should it decide to short again.
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advman89   Red wire with some crispy insulation....   Feb 28 2022, 09:09 PM
914sgofast2   You have my sympathy. I am trying to sort out the ...   Feb 28 2022, 09:13 PM
VaccaRabite   Big red wire is either going from the ignition swi...   Feb 28 2022, 09:28 PM
Costa05   I'm in the depths of a full dash replacement ...   Feb 28 2022, 10:48 PM
barnfind9141972   What year is it? I have a 72-73 diagram that’s a...   Mar 1 2022, 03:46 AM
Spoke   About the blue/white wire shorted to the brown wir...   Mar 1 2022, 04:48 AM
Superhawk996   If you wanted to remove that wire from service, f...   Mar 1 2022, 07:25 AM
advman89   Thank you all for the replies. The Car is a 1971 ...   Mar 1 2022, 09:13 AM
advman89   Gotcha. Check this out! Opened the connect...   Mar 1 2022, 11:33 PM
Superhawk996   :trophy: Nice job getting that out of there. Hope...   Mar 2 2022, 06:57 AM
advman89   I checked all the adjacent wires and there are no ...   Mar 2 2022, 08:21 AM
Superhawk996   I checked all the adjacent wires and there are no...   Mar 2 2022, 08:48 AM
advman89   Here are some photos... PIN 12 (depending on diag...   Mar 2 2022, 12:27 PM
ejm   That power distribution junction block was only us...   Mar 2 2022, 05:44 PM
advman89   That power distribution junction block was only u...   Mar 3 2022, 09:56 AM
Costa05   I have a 73 and dont have that screw post conne...   Mar 2 2022, 05:59 PM
Superhawk996   I'm out of my league based on the photos becau...   Mar 2 2022, 02:01 PM
advman89   Mine is a 71. I don't know if there are a lot ...   Mar 2 2022, 03:55 PM
914sgofast2   Mine is a 71. I don't know if there are a lot...   Mar 2 2022, 05:54 PM
Superhawk996   is this a 914-6?   Mar 2 2022, 04:02 PM
barefoot   I had to install a complete replacement harness in...   Mar 3 2022, 07:39 AM
Costa05   I had to install a complete replacement harness i...   Mar 3 2022, 08:13 AM
johnorm   I had to install a complete replacement harness i...   Mar 23 2023, 11:43 AM
Superhawk996   I hate to admit this since I generally think the e...   Mar 3 2022, 08:48 AM
advman89   ...and now I'll be adding in fuseblock near th...   Mar 3 2022, 05:42 PM
anderssj   That power distribution block is there on my ...   Mar 3 2022, 07:43 PM
advman89   The ground block was removed last night, wires pro...   Mar 4 2022, 08:50 AM
advman89   Fuse block is in place. I feel better. Thank you a...   Mar 14 2022, 12:19 PM
VaccaRabite   Fuse block is in place. I feel better. Thank you ...   Mar 16 2022, 12:00 PM
ClayPerrine   Fuse block is in place. I feel better. Thank you...   Mar 16 2022, 02:26 PM
Geezer914   Did the Ford solenoid for the starter and 4 fuses ...   Mar 23 2023, 03:47 PM


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