914 GT 3.6 Ferrari Build, - Mechanicals coming along, electronics soon! Options

[KELTY360]

Header modeling kit? Like Lego tubing? How does that work?

@Krieger Andy - Yep, like Legos - they snap together. Each piece is a 1" centerline length in either straight, 2", 3" or 4" radius, just like mandrel-bent exhaust tubing. Use the same number of pieces in each primary and you get equal length headers - assuming that's the goal. If not, you just work out a design that fits.
Each piece has alignment marks (and the kit has a "build sheet" to record how the pieces align with each other) so once the design is finalized, you disassemble the logical sections, cut the exhaust tubing to match, replace the plastic pieces with tubing and weld it up.
It's pretty slick.

And yes, it'll all be featured in an upcoming video on "At The Red Barn". You won't want to miss it!

That is soooo cool! I wonder how Enzo would react seeing Legos in his motor?

Really?? That’s your question about Enzo’s reaction to one of his engines in a 914? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

[ClayPerrine]

Header modeling kit? Like Lego tubing? How does that work?

@Krieger Andy - Yep, like Legos - they snap together. Each piece is a 1" centerline length in either straight, 2", 3" or 4" radius, just like mandrel-bent exhaust tubing. Use the same number of pieces in each primary and you get equal length headers - assuming that's the goal. If not, you just work out a design that fits.
Each piece has alignment marks (and the kit has a "build sheet" to record how the pieces align with each other) so once the design is finalized, you disassemble the logical sections, cut the exhaust tubing to match, replace the plastic pieces with tubing and weld it up.
It's pretty slick.

And yes, it'll all be featured in an upcoming video on "At The Red Barn". You won't want to miss it!

That is soooo cool! I wonder how Enzo would react seeing Legos in his motor?

Really?? That’s your question about Enzo’s reaction to one of his engines in a 914? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

Enzo always said "We sell you an engine, you get the rest of the car for free."

He would probably hate it because it is being installed in a cheap Porsche. Having worked on 80s Ferrari cars, I would say that the 914 is way better built.

[horizontally-opposed]

He would probably hate it because it is being installed in a cheap Porsche. Having worked on 80s Ferrari cars, I would say that the 914 is way better built.

^ 100%

Same goes for a Ferrari F50, in fact. You'd be shocked if you look at the taillight buckets, or the fact that it uses boat locker/Samsonite-looking outer door locks that have no connection whatsoever to the inner plunger locks. Although maybe it was intentional, so that your date can lock you out of the car if you're rude or you can lock them in if they are? Nah. It was cheap and easy, an afterthought.

[tygaboy]

As you folks can tell, the videos lag reality by a week or two. So while I'm actually working out the header design, here's more detail about the lower trans mount/cradle. Enjoy!
And please consider subscribing, if you haven't yet?

https://youtu.be/BSthVYLVGqE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSthVYLVGqE

[ndfrigi]

Wow sir Chris!
Amazing build
Amazing skills
Amazing tools
Amazing talent
Amazing mind
Amazing car

Congrats and hope to see it 100% finished

[nivekdodge]

Chris,
If you insist on leaving the carbon fiber long cover hanging out on the hood of the blue car, would you consider selling them?

Kevin

[tygaboy]

Chris,
If you insist on leaving the carbon fiber long cover hanging out on the hood of the blue car, would you consider selling them?

Kevin

@nivekdodge Kevin - I've got plans for them. If you've ever worked with fiberglass, making these sorts of things is fairly straight forward. Here's what I did - start on post #75:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...96900&st=60

[tygaboy]

Next version of the header design. Still 21" primary length.
I think this "down and out" is the winning design because there are some serious fit/clearance challenges with the "top exit" model.
All that said, there are some opportunities to tweak this design to improve the aesthetics so I'm moving forward with this approach - at least for now!

[tygaboy]

A bit more time spent trying to tidy up the layout and still equal length at 21" - but a bit more less "bumpy". A couple likely changes:
- move the collector forward at least an inch to gain more working room / options for where I locate the V-band clamp
- swap the collector location of the two front cylinders. Just to see if it looks/fits better

In any case, I know enough to order the bends and I hope to see headers coming together in metal some time this week.

[roundtwo]

Cool blue tool!

[Van B]

That’s gonna be a great spot for cats on the collector too.

[Krieger]

How long did it take to reconfigure the legos from your first setup to the second? What's it like to work with? Tedious?

[mgp4591]

Okay, if the final iteration is still fairly equal length and it fits well, go with it. That's a great configuration...

[Cairo94507]

Those are looking really nice Chris. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[nivekdodge]

Chris,
If you insist on leaving the carbon fiber long cover hanging out on the hood of the blue car, would you consider selling them?

Kevin

@nivekdodge Kevin - I've got plans for them. If you've ever worked with fiberglass, making these sorts of things is fairly straight forward. Here's what I did - start on post #75:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...96900&st=60

But if you have the steel made your halfway there

Kevin

[tygaboy]

OK, looks like this is the one I'll execute in stainless. I moved the collector farther back, sorta like where it was in the first "down and out". This version is just a bit more refined.

Equal length at 21".

I'll add the 2.25" to 2.5" transition right at the collector, take the 2.5" past the end of the engine cradle and add the O2 bung, then a 2.5" V-band connector.

Really happy with the ICEngineworks modeling kit. There is NO WAY I could have gotten this without it. And don't overlook the ability to tryout a few different options before committing!
Too bad they don't make a 914 hood vent or firewall modelling kit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)

[mikey63]

Looks really good Chris!

[tygaboy]

I think I've landed on a final design. This after only about six tries!
That missing section is a 2" straight. The "one side" kit I bought didn't have enough straights for this particular design, which uses A LOT of straight.

So now all I have to do is get the box of tubes into the same shapes as the header model. I mean, how hard can that be? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

[tygaboy]

This one should make you smile if you:
- enjoy fabrication stuff
- want more proof I really have no plan
- are under the impression I don't have lots to learn

Thanks for watching!

https://youtu.be/kaAiYWCoHC0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaAiYWCoHC0

[Cairo94507]

Another excellent video; the cradle looks bitchin. PS- I loved the music selection with the piano. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)