914 GT 3.6 Ferrari Build, - Mechanicals coming along, electronics soon! Options

[Chris914n6]

And here's the Part 1 video on the corner radiators, if you're interested:

Well... that really jumped the shark (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Couple of notes:

Dual core rads don't work much better. The air is already hot by the time it gets to the 2nd. IIRC 85-90% of the cooling happens from the first row. Modern car design is all single row.

The nose area is high pressure, so air will get pushed to wherever you want to move it. I mention this because the headlight can dip into the incoming rad air and not affect cooling.

You could do what Kent 76-914 did on his Suby then add 2 smaller rads under the headlights. You would still have half a frunk. I've got about a 1/3rd frunk with mine and the Toyota rad.

You won't need the floorpan under the headlight with that much cut out. I'd still think about modding a 73-74 bumper to use the inboard mounts. Or if you do fiberglass you can make a support beam however you want.

There are other small LED/HID units that are not Hella and DOT isn't necessarily a benefit. We all know the 7" e-code H4 is much better.

Mount a fat tire before you finalize a design.

[KELTY360]

Fascinating. Applaud your mission to retain front trunk. It's such a key 914 feature.
Could you fab the headlights to attach to the underside of the covers as a unit?

[tygaboy]

I had a conversation with Griffin Radiator and was told that using their core - and assuming adequate/appropriate airflow and coolant flow - a 10" x 16" rad (10 x 12 core area) has the capacity to handle 240 hp.
By that math, I'd be more than covered with one of those in each corner. I have to say, that seems a little bit of a stretch. But it is encouraging. Add a center rad, just to be sure and I think I'm good.

I ordered some 60mm DOT halogens to prove out exactly what room I'll need for lighting. Once that's settled, I can get a final spec on the space for the radiators.

[tygaboy]

Today was getting the shifter cables routed. A bit more clearancing needed to raise the opening on the inner firewall to but it looks like it's going to work routing through that large factory opening that's used for the wiring harness.

[ClayPerrine]

Beautiful shifter.

I spy a 911 column in the driver's floor.
Looks like you are planning a left hand key conversion.

[Cairo94507]

Left side dash ignition definitely required for this project. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[tygaboy]

Latest build video - for those who haven't yet subscribed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MxRN3KduwU

[Cairo94507]

Nice progress and very clean cable run. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[tygaboy]

Waiting for the custom length shift cables so started rethinking the intake set up. I think I want to drop the whole thing so it fits under the stock sheet metal. Here it is dropped 1.5". Not quite enough. Looks like maybe 2.25" may do it.
The good news is I have two intake manifolds do I can play with one and if I don't like it, I'll use the other at stock height.
Not nearly as dramatic a look but more practical and a bigger surprise when things do get opened up.

Decisions, decisions...

[Van B]

Why do I feel like those fixture blocks are worth more than the manifold they’re holding up?

[Chris914n6]

Considering the engineering involved with the IM that you'd be messing with, I'd do a GT mesh lid and arch over it.

[SirAndy]

I for one really liked how the manifold was sticking out the top. Hiding all that stuff under the lid just doesn't look right.
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[Cairo94507]

I wish there was a middle ground for this. Kind of like the clear hood section on the hot rod Corvette hoods (I do not know which model that was). So the engine lid/trunk body lines remain stock but you see the intake when you walk up on it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[ClayPerrine]

Personally, I like the idea of hiding it beneath a GT engine grill. That way it looks like a flared 914 from the outside.. until you look through the mesh on the engine grill.

[tygaboy]

While I appreciate the comments and opinions, there are other things I'm looking to deal with such as wanting as much trunk space as I can get.
The current "pointed straight back" TBs means I'd need to sacrifice trunk volume to some sort of air box - plus work out an intake location. And no, I don't want tubes running back and forth to feed the air box, I don't want an intake in the rear panel...

So. The current thinking is to reshape the rear of the upper pleunum so it essentially matches the angle of the front. Then shorten the manifold runners only as much as needed to get the intake under the engine grill. This also means no mods needed to the trunk lid.

Then, the TBs get relocated to the sides of the plenum, as pictured. This allows for air boxes that live right under the grill. And I get all the trunk space.

And before you get worked up about this sort of change, I've been in touch with one of the most respected 360 tuners to dicuss this. Part way through the conversation, he says "Let me text you a pic...". That's the first pic here. It's exactly what I'm talking about. He said it works fine - and referenced that this is the same approach Ferrari took with the Enzo. That's the 2nd pic.

Is it going to sacrifice power? Maybe. But also maybe not. And if it does, do I care? No. I was essentially assured driveability is retained, which is really the most important thing to me.

I do prefer the look of the initial version but after seeing the Enzo, I think I can come up with an attractive set up.

[Chris914n6]

Moving the inlets to the sides won't affect anything, but the runner length determines the power band. Longer for midrange torque - shorter for top end hp. Most modern cars have duel length runners to fatten the power curve.

Under no circumstances reduce the volume of the plenum.

[East coaster]

Looks like a couple good options for a solution

[Van B]

I’m gonna take all that to mean those blocks ARE more expensive than the manifold lol…

[Superhawk996]

I’m gonna take all that to mean those blocks ARE more expensive than the manifold lol…

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) All depends . . . China made or Starrett (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) or maybe Brown & Sharpe?

[tygaboy]

I’m gonna take all that to mean those blocks ARE more expensive than the manifold lol…

@Van B I wish. And I bought my fixture table and goodie set many years ago. Was even less back then.