914 GT 3.6 Ferrari Build, - Mechanicals coming along, electronics soon! Options

[tygaboy]

Hi 914 World -
A bit of an intro, if you'll indulge me.
I've always been a believer in fate and karma. A believer in serendipity. A believer that the universe presents thing to us for a reason. Sometimes good, sometimes not. Fortunately, the journey of adventure I'm about to begin is one of the good ones!

Maybe a year or so ago, @Krieger Andy calls and says he has a buddy looking to buy a rear valance for a 914 and do I have one I'd sell. I said that I do, give my contact info to your friend. A few days later, this guy calls and we arrange for him to come by the Red Barn and see if the valance meets his needs. He arrives and we start "the dance of the car guys"! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) He talks about his car experiences, I talk about mine. We talk 356s. We talk 911s. We talk 914s. Obviously, we have a ton in common, including a love for my LS build. He pours over my car, noticing not only the big stuff, but all the little things I've done, too. On this day, he buys the valance and we agree we'll stay in touch. And we do!
Over the course of the following months, he stops by pretty regularly, I visit his place and it's clear that beyond the car stuff, he's a good guy, we get along well and we're going to be friends.

So, one day, we're chatting about RacerBenz. my 2001 Mercedes CL500, Corvette suspension, mid engine, center seat track car build. Yes, I know, a horrific waste of time and money. But anyway, I say "What would be cool is to build "Benzo Ferrari! Find a Ferrari engine and trans and..." He interrupts and says "I have one! From a 360 Modena. And the trans, harnesses, ECUs, etc. I'd love to see it get used for something. Why don't you come get it?"

Wait, what? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Fast forward to last week where I do just that. Here's what's in the Red Barn now: 3.6 liters, 400 hp and 275 lb/ft of Italian automotive porn.

[tygaboy]

Pushing this concept ^^^ one step further, how about including the small part that is normally attached to the body and eliminate that panel gap. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

@Montreal914 You're talking about that outboard element of the engine lid? I made them removable, that might work. Interesting/great idea I may shamelessly steal... ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

[Montreal914]

Pushing this concept ^^^ one step further, how about including the small part that is normally attached to the body and eliminate that panel gap. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

@Montreal914 You're talking about that outboard element of the engine lid? I made them removable, that might work. Interesting/great idea I may shamelessly steal... ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

Right! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

If you plan on something like Retroracer is suggesting, might as well combine with the outer section.

[campbellcj]

I like the idea too - apples and oranges but FWIW I 'gutted' and made my GT-style lid fully removable years ago which removed weight and improved airflow in addition to improving engine access.

[tygaboy]

And for those who'd like a bit more detail and add'l info on the latest progress, this'll catch you up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjOBg3ZwyDE

[Chris914n6]

I'll save you a bunch of time.... no on the electronic actuators. It needs to be a quick change, slow will mess up the flow efficiency. It will likely activate dozens of times per mile. Also no on a solenoid as they are not meant to be 'held' and will overheat.

That vacuum canister is HUGE. The one on my Nissan does just a big butterfly and it's soup can sized. You will probably want 2 for the volume of both mechanisms.

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I think I would use the trunk torsen bar mounting points as a base point for the trunk wall jig as they will be on the backside of what you want to build.

[tygaboy]

After a fair bit of tweaking to get turn downs to mate to the plenums at the target rotation, height and angle, everything is tacked in position, allowing a test fit of the throttle bodies. I couldn't be happier with how this is looking. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
About all I could ask for would be mirror image throttle bodies to have total symmetry. But I think I can live with it!

[tygaboy]

And with the notched trunk lid. It's coming together...

[Cairo94507]

That looks sweet; looking forward to seeing it in person tomorrow. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[r_towle]

Very cool style.
If you can manage to just show those two covers….a sweet detail.

Looking forward to this project!

[East coaster]

Nice!

[ClayPerrine]

The world's car community: "You can't put a Ferrari drivetrain in a cheap pink 70s Porsche chassis! That would be sacrilegious!"

Tygaboy: "Hold my beer..."

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I just figured out how to solve the world's energy crisis.

Hook a generator to Enzo Ferrari's body. Because the first time this thing drives down the road, he is going to start spinning in his grave at 20,000 RPM!


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Keep up the good work. I love what you are doing.

[tygaboy]

...and the footage of what led to the recent pics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QawHtPqzzrM

[Shivers]

That looks nice

[roundtwo]

After a fair bit of tweaking to get turn downs to mate to the plenums at the target rotation, height and angle, everything is tacked in position, allowing a test fit of the throttle bodies. I couldn't be happier with how this is looking. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
About all I could ask for would be mirror image throttle bodies to have total symmetry. But I think I can live with it!

Wow, great progress since Wednesday. Really cool to see and hear the about all the dynamics going on in the different parts of the intake.

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[tygaboy]

With the intake flipped 180, the engine lid opening needed updating. Still lots to work out but it looks way mo' betta with the entire length of the plenums exposed.

[tygaboy]

And with everything in position, I have this much clearance from the air/oil separater to a stowed targa top.

[East coaster]

Have you considered cutting the trunk a little further and making a piece to connect the rear halves of the engine cover (following the lines of the plenums). I’m not sure if you have room for that and still clear the targa top though? It would put stability back into the engine lid and would look pretty cool.

[technicalninja]

And with everything in position, I have this much clearance from the air/oil separater to a stowed targa top.

OK, I just have to ask...

Did you plan for this when you jigged up the subframe?

Or, did you absolutely flat luck out????

[ClayPerrine]

And with everything in position, I have this much clearance from the air/oil separater to a stowed targa top.

Have you thought about the fact that with no trunk floor in the way, the headliner is going to get absolutely filthy with road grime every time you drive it with the top off?

If it were me, I would cut about 10mm out of the neck to provide clearance so it doesn't rub the headliner.

[tygaboy]

And with everything in position, I have this much clearance from the air/oil separater to a stowed targa top.

OK, I just have to ask...

Did you plan for this when you jigged up the subframe?

Or, did you absolutely flat luck out????

@technicalninja - There was never a plan to stow the top. Totally got lucky.
But I choose to believe it's more a fate and karma thing so I'm going with:
It was meant to be.