New 914 Owner Options

[ogdougy]

Well motor is split and the bad stuff keeps on coming. Some pretty bad scoring on the bearings and the same on the crank.
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All of it can easily be felt with my finger nail. Yes it can be re-ground and made good again. Or i just commit and do the 2056 with one of those stroker kits and make my life easy.

And the cam looks stock. No markings anywhere other than the OEM VW stamped ID
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[Shivers]

The engine came out of a 914. Good news. It is basically in one piece. Good news. You split the case and now have access to install new parts. Good news. You're about to find out what parts cost. Bad news. But I got for my 1.7 a 2.0 counter balanced crank, rods, 2.0 P&C's, lightened flywheel and a nice carbureted cam shaft. A little head work and a set of modified 40 idf's and it became a whole new car. Then it was time for brakes, suspension and God I've got to do something about this shifter! And then... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) @ogdougy

[ClayPerrine]

The engine came out of a 914. Good news. It is basically in one piece. Good news. You split the case and now have access to install new parts. Good news. You're about to find out what parts cost. Bad news. But I got for my 1.7 a 2.0 counter balanced crank, rods, 2.0 P&C's, lightened flywheel and a nice carbureted cam shaft. A little head work and a set of modified 40 idf's and it became a whole new car. Then it was time for brakes, suspension and God I've got to do something about this shifter! And then... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) @ogdougy

That is called "Dirk Wright's Disease"...... and you have it bad.

[Shivers]

The engine came out of a 914. Good news. It is basically in one piece. Good news. You split the case and now have access to install new parts. Good news. You're about to find out what parts cost. Bad news. But I got for my 1.7 a 2.0 counter balanced crank, rods, 2.0 P&C's, lightened flywheel and a nice carbureted cam shaft. A little head work and a set of modified 40 idf's and it became a whole new car. Then it was time for brakes, suspension and God I've got to do something about this shifter! And then... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) @ogdougy

That is called "Dirk Wright's Disease"...... and you have it bad.

Hahaha, got that right. Found AA in Hot VW in 82-83(?), and it has been chronic ever since. To my Wife's chagrin, I had a really bad bout in the early 90's. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Just now putting some parts on I bought back then. ogdougy, don't let this deter you, "Dirk Wright's Disease" is contagious but can be avoided. That said, when you find a way to avoid it, let me know. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[MM1]

So. . .you’re in deep now . . .as many have said here - enjoy the journey, and

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[ogdougy]

As the updates come. I have bought a 2056 stroker kit along with a Scat C25 cam, scat lifters, and cam gear.

Still thinking about the heads. Looking at getting the AA 1.8L heads with the larger valves. Makes my life easier and my 1.7 Tins will still fit if I have read everything correctly. 1.7 and 1.8 tins are the same. 2.0 tins are different due to the change in spark plug location.

Doing the math with the flat top pistons, 58cc min combustion chamber, 0.036 piston to deck height, no head gasket. It should drop me just a hair under 9:1 compression. Should make for a very fun car.

Many miles of oil leaks and dirt
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DIY hot tank, simple green, and a lot of elbow grease w/ a brush
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Still some nasty spots but brake cleaner is going to take care of that.

I did assemble it empty and with some telescope gauges i measured out all my bores. Everything looks to be in spec with the stamping on the original bearings.

Another thing i have to do is think about what exhaust im going to use. Old one had to be cut up due to it being seized in some places.
May grab some stainless steel and tig my own up. It just depends how lazy im going to be.

[ogdougy]

So, as my parts are coming in I realized i have made a mistake on cylinder head studs. Ordered the wrong ones. Simple mistake on my end, oh well.
My old ones were kind of thrashed and a couple have the nuts stuck on the stud.

My question is, after looking around, where the hell do you buy head studs? Seems like the only thing available are the ARP ones from LN. Which are way over kill for what i need.

[jim-c]

I highly recommend European Motorsports, Hawthorne, CA. I just got a new short block and a set of heads from them. The heads are real nice. The heads are not listed on the website.

[krazykonrad]

Also, ditch the single carb. If you are not running FI, you need dual carbs to get the air/fuel mixture right.

[Dave_Darling]

Double-check the registers in the heads where the cylinders go. IIRC, the 1.7 heads have 100mm registers, while the 1.7 and 2.0 heads have 105mm registers.

If you do the math, a 96mm piston in a cylinder that fits a 100mm register means that the cylinder is 2mm thick at the top. That's pretty thin. If you want to keep your heads, you can have them fly-cut to 105mm, and use the 96mm P/C kit intended for 1.8 motors. Or just swap the cylinders for the ones that fit the 1.8 and the 2.0.

--DD

[ogdougy]

Engine is back together. Had the machine shop remove some material from the bottom of the cylinders and set me up with a 0.038' piston to deck height. Putting it at 8.6:1 compression. Should work out great.
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And in an effort to learn something new. Got me a beginners TIG welder and will be attempting to make my own exhaust. Stub pipes first. Should go about 11 more inches into a 2-1 collector and out the back with two yoshimura RS3 mufflers from a hayabusa.
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Now to the shitty part. Cleaning up the engine bay from a splattered cv joint and god knows how many years of oil leaks. Got the falling apart battery tray out and got a good look at the rust damage. Doesnt seem too bad, mostly surface rust with some pitting but the hell hole seems to be on the same level and im going to be welding up those seems.
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Since im taking out the non-working air conditioning i got to look at the longitudinal. Only rust there seems to be from them squeezing the lines through.
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Fixing the front hole as well
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Annnndddd to the rear fire wall. Some one tried to do a patch job and it was the shittiest job possible. Cutting them out and fixing that as well.

Ignore the blue that was the PO. Older gentleman only worked on the car a couple months a year use the color to help him keep track one what he did.
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Old patch
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Working on shaping the new patch and trimming it to fit properly
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[rick 918-S]

Nice work on that engine. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/assimilate.gif) You are a quick study. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Think about lightening the flywheel. You will like the seat of the pants HP gain. Not much but the engine will spin up fasterand decel faster on down shifts.

[ogdougy]

Nice work on that engine. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/assimilate.gif) You are a quick study. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Think about lightening the flywheel. You will like the seat of the pants HP gain. Not much but the engine will spin up fasterand decel faster on down shifts.

Thank you very much. I did get the lighter flywheel when i bought the stroker kit. Im really excited to drive this thing. Even when it had the travesty of the motor when i bought it, it was a blast.

[ogdougy]

Found the reason why my interior kept getting mysteriously wet when pressure washing the engine bay.
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Filling in holes as i find them
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Top passenger side filled. They drilled this out just for the AC compressor switch.
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Drivers side done. Just some more sanding to smooth out and there is a little section on the top left that got blown out when welding that i need to fill in.
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Should have the passenger side done tomorrow, hopefully if my back is blown out from today

[Puebloswatcop]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) And so the terminal illness begins....

[malcolm2]

Welcome to the world.... and Hey, Register your VIN on here.

[ClayPerrine]

Found the reason why my interior kept getting mysteriously wet when pressure washing the engine bay.
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Uh.. You are going to want to put that hole back. There is supposed to be a guide tube leading from there up to the engine lid release. Inside there is supposed to be a threaded stud that you put the bezel into the back pad. Then the engine lid release cable is fed through there.

[ogdougy]

Final one all done. Just need to get some bondo to smooth the transitions from weld to parent metal. Because im not a good enough welder to make it nice, so, grinder and paint make me the welder I ain't.
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Finally i have been desperately trying to get the engine bay clean. This is the product of multiple pressure washing with scrubbing and de-greaser. I will have to get it sand blasted/acid dipped to get it clean and i just dont care at this point.

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Im going to weld my new battery tray and probably just hit the engine bay with some POR 15 where it needs it and paint the rest black.

[Cairo94507]

Before selecting a motor builder, I would vet them for recent builds. I heard a member here had a very bad experience with a builder referenced above. Shops that may have been at the top of their game 10 years ago, may no longer be, for a variety of reasons. It's not cheap building a motor, so proceed with caution. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[ogdougy]

Continuing the clean up. The battery tray is in and I filled in the little area they cut out on the passenger side to fit the air conditioning. Just need to finish making a little piece of curled over metal and weld it to hold the rubber engine compartment seals
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Removed all the little tabs up top for, what i assume, is the holders for the fire wall pad. Also removed the engine lid hinges. They were disgusting and need to be re-made.
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Said hinge. They welded the fuck out of it. It was strong but a gusset would just be prettier. This one is the "better" of the two.
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Started ripping up the interior removing all the unnecessary wires that were added by the PO for the AC and the sound stuff. While i was here i also removed the speedo cable to replace it since the old one had a crimp in it.
Fuel lines are gone as well will be replacing it with an steel braided AN line i had lying around in my bucket of spare parts.
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While doing that i found another surprise!!
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Finally from my electronic spare parts. Im going to be making a set of gauges.
Oil temp, Oil pressure, and CHT.
I already had all the parts only thing i had to order was the K type CHT sensor.
Going to 3d print the gauge faces and use GM stepper motors to drive them.
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