Is anyone using a hex bar linkage, twin carbs |
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Is anyone using a hex bar linkage, twin carbs |
930cabman |
Jun 1 2022, 05:37 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,090 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
A decent 1975 Palma Green came to me last year, from Cali with very little rust and original paint. She was running ok with a single carb. I changed it out to a set of twin 40 IDF Webers and she has not run decent since. The cheapskate in me has considered simply sending Tangerine $400. and getting it right, but ...
I can get a smooth idle at 5 -6 on a snail, but increasing the throttle opening a small amount I cannot get equal air readings from 1-2 to 3-4. Compression ranges from 110 to 125, leakdown ranges from 5%-18%, valve clearances at .006. The characteristic popping and poor running are the result of this unbalance condition. thanks in advance |
Robarabian |
Jun 1 2022, 06:29 PM
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914 A Roo Group: Members Posts: 592 Joined: 11-February 19 From: Simi Valley, Kalifornia Member No.: 22,865 Region Association: Southern California |
Hi Cabman,
The popping and poor running is likely due to lean condition. Popping for sure. Once you have timing, ignition and valves all proper, then you can tune the carbs. Get them dialed in low and work your way up. There is alot of info on dual carb tuning here and elsewhere. Make sure they are on the idle circuit and the butterflies are closed. Go from there. Do it without any linkage on the carbs. Then attach linkage and sync the linkage. Then work the carbs.. Again, lots of reading to do, but it isnt just being unbalanced... A decent 1975 Palma Green came to me last year, from Cali with very little rust and original paint. She was running ok with a single carb. I changed it out to a set of twin 40 IDF Webers and she has not run decent since. The cheapskate in me has considered simply sending Tangerine $400. and getting it right, but ... I can get a smooth idle at 5 -6 on a snail, but increasing the throttle opening a small amount I cannot get equal air readings from 1-2 to 3-4. Compression ranges from 110 to 125, leakdown ranges from 5%-18%, valve clearances at .006. The characteristic popping and poor running are the result of this unbalance condition. thanks in advance |
r_towle |
Jun 1 2022, 07:48 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,584 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
After trying all the x bar linkage..and I know how to tune carbs, I would suggest you call Foley.
BUT, tune as stated above, jet changes may help. Buy the jet kit, read up and get it perfect. Only then will you see the slight difference the linkage makes. |
bbrock |
Jun 1 2022, 07:54 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
No question the Tangerine linkage is the best, but I've been really happy with the CSP linkage which is reasonably priced. Well, as happy as I'll ever be with anything carb related. Will be going back to FI soon.
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914werke |
Jun 1 2022, 08:17 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,097 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Ive been using a CSP on anything Im "forced" to apply carbs to.
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930cabman |
Jun 2 2022, 04:58 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,090 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
Thanks for the replies. Spark timing is good, idle speed screws are about 3/4 turn in, mixture screws are about 1 - 1 1/2 turn out. It seems as though the carbs are not being activated at the same rate. I have a CSP setup, but mistakenly ordered assembly that works with a 911 style fan. I may send it back or put it up for sale here.
Tangerine will be my first call today. I have a pile of FI (both D and L jet) stuff laying around, it may be smart to inventory the stuff and give it a try. |
Superhawk996 |
Jun 2 2022, 11:56 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,857 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Thanks for the replies. Spark timing is good, idle speed screws are about 3/4 turn in, mixture screws are about 1 - 1 1/2 turn out. It seems as though the carbs are not being activated at the same rate. I have a CSP setup, but mistakenly ordered assembly that works with a 911 style fan. I may send it back or put it up for sale here. Tangerine will be my first call today. I have a pile of FI (both D and L jet) stuff laying around, it may be smart to inventory the stuff and give it a try. @930cabman -- if you have 73' early 2.0L D-jet stuff, reach out to @second wind . . . he's looking for ECU / wiring harness http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=359954 |
930cabman |
Jun 2 2022, 05:38 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,090 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
After trying all the x bar linkage..and I know how to tune carbs, I would suggest you call Foley. BUT, tune as stated above, jet changes may help. Buy the jet kit, read up and get it perfect. Only then will you see the slight difference the linkage makes. I spoke with Chris this morning and too bad he has none in stock, but informed me in a couple weeks he will be able to ship me a setup. I feel my jets are close, at least the idle circuit |
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