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bkrantz
post Jun 17 2022, 09:28 PM
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I don't mean to restart an old argument (well, maybe a little), but I love the front corner of the 914, especially without the US side marker light wart. For me, some isolated design details are really what makes the car, like the curve of the rear side window on a 911.


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post Jun 22 2022, 03:18 PM
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Prefer the look with them removed, but wouldn't remove side markers from any 914 of significant originality. I removed them on my six conversion, but the whole 914 had already been messed with.

Also understand being able to see the marker from the side, but the front lenses seem to pop out enough they are easy to see at dusk/night from the side, even from a blind spot you can see the. Side markers, while required, seemed a bit redundant.
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post Jun 22 2022, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(Root_Werks @ Jun 22 2022, 03:18 PM) *

Prefer the look with them removed, but wouldn't remove side markers from any 914 of significant originality. I removed them on my six conversion, but the whole 914 had already been messed with.

Also understand being able to see the marker from the side, but the front lenses seem to pop out enough they are easy to see at dusk/night from the side, even from a blind spot you can see the. Side markers, while required, seemed a bit redundant.


I'm of like mind. Seems clear the Porsche design team preferred the cars without them and the markers were a regulatory afterthought. Still, removing them was a hard decision since I wanted to keep my car original. It is the only "non reversible" alteration I made. I was resolved to keep the markers until I stripped off some old 70s era bodywork of swiss cheesing panels full of holes and laying on Bondo a half inch thick. The rot that left behind around the side marker holes made the decision for me. Much easier to patch with fresh sheet metal than to patch and then carefully redrill holes to add something ugly to the sides.

For me, it is an either/or thing. While changing to a low profile marker would improve the look, it still breaks the beautiful curve that is revealed with their absence. My decision to install stealth markers was purely a safety decision. After contemplating the side illumination of the front signals, I decided they were probably adequate, but side visibility is definitely improved with side markers. In the land of dark mountain roads and Montana-sized trucks, my little toy car needs all the help it can get. I really like the combo of the euro signals with LED bulbs and the stealth amber side markers. It makes for a good daytime running light combo increasing visibility from front and sides while keeping the headlights down. Sure, the illusion of originality is blown when those makers light up, and I don't like the disco bling look of them, but much prefer it to being side swiped.
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post Jun 22 2022, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(bbrock @ Jun 22 2022, 04:30 PM) *

QUOTE(Root_Werks @ Jun 22 2022, 03:18 PM) *

Prefer the look with them removed, but wouldn't remove side markers from any 914 of significant originality. I removed them on my six conversion, but the whole 914 had already been messed with.

Also understand being able to see the marker from the side, but the front lenses seem to pop out enough they are easy to see at dusk/night from the side, even from a blind spot you can see the. Side markers, while required, seemed a bit redundant.


I'm of like mind. Seems clear the Porsche design team preferred the cars without them and the markers were a regulatory afterthought. Still, removing them was a hard decision since I wanted to keep my car original. It is the only "non reversible" alteration I made. I was resolved to keep the markers until I stripped off some old 70s era bodywork of swiss cheesing panels full of holes and laying on Bondo a half inch thick. The rot that left behind around the side marker holes made the decision for me. Much easier to patch with fresh sheet metal than to patch and then carefully redrill holes to add something ugly to the sides.

For me, it is an either/or thing. While changing to a low profile marker would improve the look, it still breaks the beautiful curve that is revealed with their absence. My decision to install stealth markers was purely a safety decision. After contemplating the side illumination of the front signals, I decided they were probably adequate, but side visibility is definitely improved with side markers. In the land of dark mountain roads and Montana-sized trucks, my little toy car needs all the help it can get. I really like the combo of the euro signals with LED bulbs and the stealth amber side markers. It makes for a good daytime running light combo increasing visibility from front and sides while keeping the headlights down. Sure, the illusion of originality is blown when those makers light up, and I don't like the disco bling look of them, but much prefer it to being side swiped.


yes - interesting thing about the USA side markers is that they are also passive reflectors.

i do like your stealth side markers. very very neat. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

my old type 3 squareback i owned back in the 80s was a german manufacture import.
they sold both aus assembled type3s down here and german manufactured fully imported. the german ones were neat as they had little parking lights incorporated into the belt line chrome on the sides of the car. this was a split lens light with a red rear section and a white front section. when you parked the car on the side of the road at night in low vis situations you could flick the indicator switch up or down with the ignition off and the light would come on just on that side of the car to help make it visible.

i can't remember anymore if this was also how the original side marker USA lights worked as i rewired my 914 thirty years ago to get it to conform enough to aus standards.
do the side markers also come on just on one side with USA lights if you have ignition off and indicator stalk up or down?



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bkrantz   Beauty is a Lack of Warts   Jun 17 2022, 09:28 PM
KELTY360   That looks so right! When I had mine removed I...   Jun 17 2022, 09:50 PM
autopro   I agree, the car looks much better to my eye witho...   Jun 17 2022, 10:43 PM
Puebloswatcop   Yep a 914 without warts takes on so much more beau...   Jun 18 2022, 06:06 AM
Cairo94507   Yes, I agree. On my first 2 914-6's I removed...   Jun 18 2022, 06:54 AM
914e   That is one of the two things I wish I did, remove...   Jun 18 2022, 07:07 AM
Ansbacher   Would Teddy Roosevelt still be Teddy without the s...   Jun 18 2022, 11:52 AM
Rick986   Would Teddy Roosevelt still be Teddy without the ...   Jun 22 2022, 05:54 PM
Front yard mechanic   Here's ten bucks Now go downtown and have a ...   Jun 18 2022, 01:26 PM
Ansbacher   Here's ten bucks Now go downtown and have a...   Jun 18 2022, 01:54 PM
Front yard mechanic   Here's ten bucks Now go downtown and have ...   Jun 18 2022, 03:28 PM
Shivers   Guess this is one of those elective surgery things...   Jun 18 2022, 01:52 PM
Van B   I’m really surprised no one in the community has...   Jun 18 2022, 02:25 PM
Big Len   I’m really surprised no one in the community ha...   Jun 18 2022, 03:59 PM
bbrock   I’m really surprised no one in the community ha...   Jun 21 2022, 05:33 PM
wonkipop   give it a few more years and wart cars will be rar...   Jun 18 2022, 04:34 PM
Van B   I’m just saying guys: flush mount lens and housi...   Jun 18 2022, 07:17 PM
wonkipop   I’m just saying guys: flush mount lens and hous...   Jun 19 2022, 02:23 AM
B3owulf   That looks great, really wished I had done that be...   Jun 19 2022, 11:15 AM
Shivers   Something like the old dodge side light. [url...   Jun 19 2022, 04:51 PM
oakdalecurtis   RE: Beauty is a Lack of Warts   Jun 19 2022, 07:31 PM
Van B   Looks great @bbrock but I was talking about a fl...   Jun 21 2022, 07:22 PM
wonkipop   Looks great [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs...   Jun 21 2022, 08:58 PM
Literati914   personally, I've evolved over the years to lik...   Jun 21 2022, 08:57 PM
Van B   I just looked them up. Hard to tell without measu...   Jun 22 2022, 02:00 PM
Root_Werks   Prefer the look with them removed, but wouldn...   Jun 22 2022, 03:18 PM
bbrock   Prefer the look with them removed, but wouldn...   Jun 22 2022, 04:30 PM
wonkipop   Prefer the look with them removed, but wouldn...   Jun 22 2022, 05:39 PM
bkrantz   Prefer the look with them removed, but wouldn...   Jun 22 2022, 07:48 PM
Morph914   I would never remove my warts. I don’t disagree ...   Jun 22 2022, 07:44 PM
wonkipop   @bkrantz - yep your car looks great without them....   Jun 22 2022, 08:47 PM
SKL1   Whatever floats your boat but I removed them on bo...   Jun 22 2022, 09:02 PM
gereed75   I also have always thought the compromize solution...   Jun 23 2022, 05:55 AM
Shivers   This might be possible, went out a pulled a tape a...   Jun 23 2022, 09:09 AM
mlindner   Agree, I like the clean look, no warts.   Jun 24 2022, 05:29 AM
Root_Werks   Was trying to find a picture of a flared 914 with ...   Jun 24 2022, 02:17 PM
SKL1   I've got a picture of Peter Gregg's 916 my...   Jun 24 2022, 03:16 PM
wonkipop   RE: Beauty is a Lack of Warts   Jun 24 2022, 05:21 PM
bkrantz   Ouch--that looks worse. :barf:   Jun 24 2022, 07:48 PM
wonkipop   @bkrantz - no its not a good look at all is it.   Jun 24 2022, 07:59 PM
PCH   Seems like low profile side markers would be prett...   Jun 26 2022, 11:42 AM
Literati914   When I did my P1800 (restomod) I eliminated the hu...   Jun 26 2022, 01:14 PM


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