EV 914's Options

[raynekat]

Whether you like 'em or not....they are definitely a wave of the future.
Not sure what I think about the whole idea myself.

Still have the rear luggage boot which is nice.

It's pretty slick the bolt in rear cradle that holds some of the batteries, Tesla motor, cooling, etc.

The "custom" look is pretty bad as to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJTNsH-SIqk

[Shivers]

Are the negatives we will endure being forced to convert to EV, really be worth it for 12% reduction in Co2 . This is a much bigger picture than the one they are showing the public. Until batteries can get a normal human to and from an emergency call from your Parents, Grand Parents or Kids, it will be unrealistic as real transportation. But running the kids to school and back or a Cars and Coffee oddity is cool. They are planning on some type of lithium extraction at the south end of the Salton Sea. Smoke from fire or an algae bloom is blown right to the populated areas north of Salton Sea. The population here, rich and poor will be right in the way. Nothing has been said about us. Remember Bhopal, India and Union Carbide? To me it all looks like an environmental and economic disaster.


"But what of all the extra electricity needed to power those cars, wouldn’t that add some extra emissions? Technically, we found that the switch to electric cars would save 14% from the total carbon emissions. However it would also cause an increase in carbon emissions from electricity power stations equivalent to about 2% of total national emissions (assuming current mix of fossil and renewable energy sources).

Adding the reduction in driving emissions, and subtracting the extra electricity generation emissions means that, in all, the UK would emit 42 million tonnes less of CO₂ into the atmosphere each year – a 12% reduction on the 351.5 million tonnes emitted in total last year."

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However, according to California regulations, all lithium batteries tested are classified hazardous due to excessive levels of cobalt (average 163 544 mg/kg; σ = 62 897; limit 8000), copper (average 98 694 mg/kg; σ = 28 734; limit 2500), and nickel (average 9525 mg/kg; σ = 11 438; limit 2000). In some of the Li-ion batteries, the leached concentrations of chromium, lead, and thallium exceeded the California regulation limits. The environmental impact associated with resource depletion and human toxicity is mainly associated with cobalt, copper, nickel, thallium, and silver, whereas the ecotoxicity potential is primarily associated with cobalt, copper, nickel, thallium, and silver. However, the relative contribution of aluminum and lithium to human toxicity and ecotoxicity could not be estimated due to insufficient toxicity data in the models. These findings support the need for stronger government policy at the local, national, and international levels to encourage recovery, recycling, and reuse of lithium battery materials.

[Superhawk996]

However, according to California regulations, all lithium batteries tested are classified hazardous . . . .

Everything is CA is classified as hazardous via Prop 65 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

For a few years I was working out of Santa Clara. The building had a Prop 65 warning posted at the door . .. . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)

Fully agree though that the only path toward viability of EV's for the masses won't occur until raw materials can be obtained within a reasonable risk / benefit framework and with recycling of used batteries eventually contributing to the bulk of new battery production.