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raynekat |
Jun 22 2022, 08:58 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,158 Joined: 30-December 14 From: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Member No.: 18,263 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Whether you like 'em or not....they are definitely a wave of the future.
Not sure what I think about the whole idea myself. Still have the rear luggage boot which is nice. It's pretty slick the bolt in rear cradle that holds some of the batteries, Tesla motor, cooling, etc. The "custom" look is pretty bad as to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJTNsH-SIqk |
flipb |
Jun 28 2022, 11:06 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,722 Joined: 2-September 09 From: Fairfax, VA Member No.: 10,752 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Another thing that hasn't been mentioned in this thread is maintenance and dependability.
How much time do most of us spend chasing vacuum leaks, bad injectors, carb rebuilds, fuel issues, valve adjustments, oil changes, etc. etc. All of that goes away with an EV. I've lived with one as my DD for 6 years now and while the torque and practicality are great, one of the most remarkable things in retrospect is that I don't have to ever think about maintenance. Once in those five years, I needed the 12v battery replaced. And there have been plenty of minor inconvenience fixes, most due to Mr. Musk's tendency toward gadgetry (damn retractable door handles). Drive all day, come home, plug in, go to bed, repeat. Right now, my 914 is sitting in the garage because it's suddenly decided to only run on 3 cylinders. If it were as turnkey as the Tesla -- with moderately more torque and imperceptibly (to me) compromised handling -- it would get driven a hell of a lot more. |
930cabman |
Jun 28 2022, 11:32 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,063 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
Another thing that hasn't been mentioned in this thread is maintenance and dependability. How much time do most of us spend chasing vacuum leaks, bad injectors, carb rebuilds, fuel issues, valve adjustments, oil changes, etc. etc. All of that goes away with an EV. I've lived with one as my DD for 6 years now and while the torque and practicality are great, one of the most remarkable things in retrospect is that I don't have to ever think about maintenance. Once in those five years, I needed the 12v battery replaced. And there have been plenty of minor inconvenience fixes, most due to Mr. Musk's tendency toward gadgetry (damn retractable door handles). Drive all day, come home, plug in, go to bed, repeat. Right now, my 914 is sitting in the garage because it's suddenly decided to only run on 3 cylinders. If it were as turnkey as the Tesla -- with moderately more torque and imperceptibly (to me) compromised handling -- it would get driven a hell of a lot more. hardly an equal comparison, a newer EV to a near 50 years old sporting car. I am still voting for our ICE's at least until sometime the technology catches up. And if I may make a minor correction "Drive all day" I was unaware any EV's had this capability? Also, great thread to get one's feathers ruffled |
flipb |
Jun 28 2022, 11:46 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,722 Joined: 2-September 09 From: Fairfax, VA Member No.: 10,752 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
hardly an equal comparison, a newer EV to a near 50 years old sporting car. I am still voting for our ICE's at least until sometime the technology catches up. Definitely fair. But a brand-new EV requires less maintenance than a brand-new ICE vehicle, too. Manufacturers who require regular maintenance on their EV models are doing so for the revenue, not because it's technically required. And if I may make a minor correction "Drive all day" I was unaware any EV's had this capability? A typical day for me is 40-50 miles of running around. Maybe 70 if I really have to go somewhere out of the way. My 9 year old base-model Tesla has a usable range of about 180mi. A brand new one comes with 400 miles of range. How many people drive more than 400mi/day, other than cargo delivery? Lucid Air has a 500mi range. Plenty of affordable EVs can run 200-275mi/day. Some real-world data on daily driving distances here: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/artic...191261516309067 Look, I can't speak with authority about how to shave 3/4 of a second off your lap time, or how to rebuild a carb. But I do have a pretty solid amount of experience living with an EV as my daily driver. It's hilarious to me that people who lack this experience are trying to explain to me the deficiencies of EVs. |
wonkipop |
Jun 29 2022, 12:42 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,297 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
hardly an equal comparison, a newer EV to a near 50 years old sporting car. I am still voting for our ICE's at least until sometime the technology catches up. Definitely fair. But a brand-new EV requires less maintenance than a brand-new ICE vehicle, too. Manufacturers who require regular maintenance on their EV models are doing so for the revenue, not because it's technically required. And if I may make a minor correction "Drive all day" I was unaware any EV's had this capability? A typical day for me is 40-50 miles of running around. Maybe 70 if I really have to go somewhere out of the way. My 9 year old base-model Tesla has a usable range of about 180mi. A brand new one comes with 400 miles of range. How many people drive more than 400mi/day, other than cargo delivery? Lucid Air has a 500mi range. Plenty of affordable EVs can run 200-275mi/day. Some real-world data on daily driving distances here: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/artic...191261516309067 Look, I can't speak with authority about how to shave 3/4 of a second off your lap time, or how to rebuild a carb. But I do have a pretty solid amount of experience living with an EV as my daily driver. It's hilarious to me that people who lack this experience are trying to explain to me the deficiencies of EVs. yes, they make complete sense as an urban commuter vehicle and even weekend vehicle within reasonable range of the city, even in aus, even right now. and you are right, you don't really have to touch them for the first few years of ownership. just check the tyres etc. complete appliance. my job means i do have a problem with distance. every two years of so i get a job with an easy 350km distance to site involved. 700k round trip. and once i get into construction phases of a project where i have to go and do site inspections it can get down to once a week or fortnight and last for months on end. most evs just wouldn't get me there. but a hybrid easily would. three years ago i did a job that was 700k one way. not that i want to do that again. good thing petrol was cheaper. glad i didn't quote fees on that job without factoring in a european war. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) i used my little renault for that work. funny thing is out on the highway it goes damn near close to a hybrid in terms of mpg efficiency. still not a stark enough difference to make the jump. but if the numbers added up i would do it and the hybrid was the right sort of car too. but they ain't. they are pretty ordinary offerings down here so far. i did chase a first gen honda insight about 10 years ago. a very cool car. unfortunately enough other guys thought they were too so they all got chased down for high $ and are tightly held. cult status? its still a car i'd like to get hold of. very purist and attractive vehicle in terms of design and technology. |
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