 Need to do a bunch of welding, Can't do it in my apartment's garage :( |
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| TonyAKAVW |
 Aug 4 2005, 03:22 PM
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That's my ride.  Group: Members Posts: 2,151 Joined: 17-January 03 From: Redondo Beach, CA Member No.: 166 Region Association: None  |
Its come to the point in my Subaru conversion that I need to finish up a lot of welding on the roller. I've got to finish fixing up the hell hole area, and put together an engine support bar, and weld on a front and partial rear fender. Its probalby a full weekend of work, maybe more. The problem is that I live in an apartment and my garage is not wired well.
I've tried using a 110 mig welder, but its pretty clear that the power is just not there. The spark will start and then the voltage on the line drops and the motor slows down. The arc goes away and the motor speeds up. So welding ends up being a series of dots of weld and I cannot seem to get decent penetration. I'm using a very beefy power cord and I even replaced the outlet on the wall. It doesn't help the situation much. Seems like I need to take this car somewhere and do the welding where I have access to the right amount of power at the very least. I don't have the budget to take the car to a shop and have the welding done, and I'd rather do it myself and learn from it. So does anyone want to help? Or anyone have any good ideas on other options? -Tony |
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| lapuwali |
Aug 4 2005, 03:49 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743  |
How about renting a gas-powered generator? They have 220 versions, and you could rent a 220 MIG while you're at it. A medium-sized generator should make plenty of power for even a 110 MIG.
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| bondo |
Aug 4 2005, 03:51 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
Back in the early days of welding they used battery banks. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)
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| Allan |
Aug 4 2005, 03:52 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
Yeah, check and see if there is a battery bank somewhere in the complex. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) |
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| ArtechnikA |
Aug 4 2005, 03:53 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
that must have been the *really* early days, before they invented gas welding... |
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| mightyohm |
Aug 4 2005, 03:59 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,277 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 162 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
There's an idea. Gas weld everything.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) More ideas: 1. trailer car to bondo's 2. run a cord to the 220 dryer outlet somewhere in your complex, pull off one leg for 110 (you can do that right?) 3. find the breaker panel, run your own power (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) 4. pay a shop to do the welding |
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| TonyAKAVW |
Aug 4 2005, 04:03 PM
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That's my ride. Group: Members Posts: 2,151 Joined: 17-January 03 From: Redondo Beach, CA Member No.: 166 Region Association: None |
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Thats a thought.. Rent a generator... The other problem though is that I have a neighbor who shares a wall with my garage. I doubt he woulid appreciate a generator going for a weekend. But then we do have a laundry room with 220. A 50 foot extension cord might make it, I wonder what kind of power loss I'd experience.. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) -Tony |
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| mightyohm |
Aug 4 2005, 04:05 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,277 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 162 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
If you found a 220V welder, not much.
Your neighbor probably isn't going to like the angle grinder either. Consider moving. |
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| bondo |
Aug 4 2005, 04:07 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
You forgot: 5. Climb a power pole and clamp an extension cord into the grid! You DO have a substation nearby... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) |
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| TonyAKAVW |
Aug 4 2005, 04:08 PM
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That's my ride. Group: Members Posts: 2,151 Joined: 17-January 03 From: Redondo Beach, CA Member No.: 166 Region Association: None |
NOW THERE'S A SOLUTION!!!! I'll just go buy myself a house right now. Oh wait. I'll need about $800,000 to do that. That makes for a rather expensive 914. The grinding I can do in the mornings when he's usually gone. I can spread that out over a few weekends if need be. But because I don't own a welder I figure I need to do it in a relatively short period of time. -Tony |
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| bondo |
Aug 4 2005, 04:10 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
But time itself is relative! How fast are you going? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) |
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| Joseph Mills |
Aug 4 2005, 04:27 PM
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on a Sonoma diet now... Group: Members Posts: 1,482 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Oklahoma City, OK Member No.: 39 |
Maybe when Pedro is out pulling some sweet jumps you could use his garage? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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| scotty914 |
Aug 4 2005, 07:58 PM
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suby torque rules Group: Members Posts: 1,525 Joined: 20-July 03 From: maryland, the land of 25 year Member No.: 924 |
okay there are several ways to do a cord from the dryer. i would recommend for cost and amperage reasons, just go get a piece of # 8 SEC AL. it will have 2 insulated conductors and a third one wrapped around the other 2. if you go to home depot you can get a square D 2 circuit sub panel to hook to your end. then put in 2 breakers to feed 2 out lets, if you size them at 20 or 25 amps you will trip your breaker before the one in the building panel goes ( dryer are normally on 30 amps ). now you have your own little power station you can wrap up and put away. as for the plug on the wall for the dryer you need to see what is there.
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| bondo |
Aug 4 2005, 08:20 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
His complex has gas dryers. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)
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| Dr. Roger |
Aug 4 2005, 08:31 PM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
Dude,
Just pick up two car batteries. Then follow the instructions HERE Some of the guys I 4 wheel with use these in the middle of no where and they do the job. No noise, no generators, no wire feel motors. Just DC stick at it's finest. =-)))) |
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