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> Door hinges, Original door hinges… Painted?
Ishley
post Aug 2 2022, 09:20 PM
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I have a 1972 1.7 that I’m restoring. One of the areas that I can’t find any information on is how the door hinges were originally finished. Mine have been sprayed over several times and when I repaint I want it to look right.

Were the hinges painted to the same color of the car? What about the bolts and pins. We’re they painted or zinc/cadmium plated. I ran my bolts through my ultrasonic cleaner and it appears they are black underneath the layers of paint.

Does anyone have an original picture of how it was finished from the factory?
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post Aug 2 2022, 10:55 PM
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74 1.8 orig paint
think its same all years.

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post Aug 3 2022, 01:43 AM
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QUOTE(Ishley @ Aug 2 2022, 07:20 PM) *

I have a 1972 1.7 that I’m restoring. One of the areas that I can’t find any information on is how the door hinges were originally finished. Mine have been sprayed over several times and when I repaint I want it to look right.

Were the hinges painted to the same color of the car? What about the bolts and pins. We’re they painted or zinc/cadmium plated. I ran my bolts through my ultrasonic cleaner and it appears they are black underneath the layers of paint.

Does anyone have an original picture of how it was finished from the factory?


originally they are painted in the same color of the car.
never saw zinc plated or different finishes.

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post Aug 3 2022, 05:53 AM
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Here are mine. Original and unmolested to my best recollection. Note zinc chromate bolts with 5F and 8.8 markings. Hinge bolts in opposing directions. Same on passenger side. Mid-early 74 1.8. Original owner.
Bolt head scratches do show signs of use.
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post Aug 3 2022, 06:18 AM
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I’ve only seen painted.
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post Aug 3 2022, 06:39 AM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Aug 3 2022, 08:18 AM) *

I’ve only seen painted.

Probably mine have been changed out then. Will use touch up paint to get back to correct original.
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post Aug 3 2022, 06:47 AM
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QUOTE(StarBear @ Aug 3 2022, 08:39 AM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Aug 3 2022, 08:18 AM) *

I’ve only seen painted.

Probably mine have been changed out then. Will use touch up paint to get back to correct original.

I believe so. 911’s are the same. Painted door hinges and hardware to hold on front fenders. When you see shiny hardware, you know it’s been changed.
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post Aug 3 2022, 06:48 AM
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QUOTE(StarBear @ Aug 3 2022, 05:53 AM) *

Here are mine. Original and unmolested to my best recollection. Note zinc chromate bolts with 5F and 8.8 markings. Hinge bolts in opposing directions. Same on passenger side. Mid-early 74 1.8. Original owner.
Bolt head scratches do show signs of use.
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sh#t

thats fascinating.

@StarBear has had his car since ground zero.

i only had mine since 89.
i don't think mine got fooled with before i got it.
i had the right hand door off to do rhd conversion but lhd door stayed on.
which is why i photographed lh door.
i've never touched it. and the bolts have never been moved.
and the paint is factory.

is this a case of the factory did it different ways?

???????

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post Aug 3 2022, 06:54 AM
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Oh, I may have changed them out many decades ago. Don’t recall doing so but will check my records. That was a long time ago, probably during the late 70s or early 80s, of which I recall little. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Aug 3 2022, 06:56 AM
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This is from the 27k mile car on bat. I’m not saying I’m the final word on this, I’m not. I think painting the bolts was pretty standard for Porsche. I’ve seen a lot of 914’s so I believe what I’m saying is true. If it’s not, I stand corrected. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


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post Aug 3 2022, 07:08 AM
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here is my karmann tag proper in focus.
she is no repaint.
or i am a better counterfeiter than characters on BAT.

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rhs door. we drove out the hinge pins to get the door off 30 years ago.
needed to manouver various beer guts in to work in pedal cluster transfer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
didnt move the hinge plates or bolts on the door jamb

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@StarBear may well be on to something.
his car is nov 73. mine is jan 74.
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And remember - Hans seems to have worked on building my car; several abnormal things on it. A key might be the bolt markings. Are mine consistent with original or replacements?
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post Aug 3 2022, 07:52 AM
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My original 914-6 unmolested.

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I’m pretty sure they were all originally painted

I’ve owned a few and looked over a lot more
Pretty sure they were originally painted
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QUOTE(9146GUY @ Aug 3 2022, 07:52 AM) *

My original 914-6 unmolested.

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wow

whats thet round plug above the K plate on a 6 all about.
not there on my sh%tbucket 1.8.

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Looks like a Ziebart plug.
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Aug 3 2022, 08:05 AM) *

Looks like a Ziebart plug.


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of course. forgive me. i live in a desert. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
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Thanks everyone

One thing that I can’t understand.. if the factory painted both hinge plates and the bolts then did they insert the unpainted hinge pin after. It seems they would have painted the doors off the car and then assembled it. If they did that I can’t believe the bolts would have been painted.

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QUOTE(Ishley @ Aug 3 2022, 07:39 AM) *

Thanks everyone

One thing that I can’t understand.. if the factory painted both hinge plates and the bolts then did they insert the unpainted hinge pin after. It seems they would have painted the doors off the car and then assembled it. If they did that I can’t believe the bolts would have been painted.


From what I have seen the area under the hinge is unpainted along with the pin so it stands to reason that, yeah, the mount plate was bolted to the car when they painted and then they put on the door with the pin. Weird though how they got the door aligned unless it was pretty standard across all the cars when they were new.
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Production facilities have a lot of tools and techniques that individuals and small shops can’t duplicate.
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