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914-6 Oil Cooler Differences |
DennisV |
Aug 14 2022, 10:15 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 468 Joined: 8-August 20 From: Santa Rosa, CA Member No.: 24,575 Region Association: Northern California |
Can anyone tell me what difference is between the two oiler coolers that are listed in the parts catalog for 914-6? My experience has been when multiple parts are listed, one superseded the other and are the same form, fit, function. What is throwing me off is quite a wide difference in price on these. Roughly $500 delta for the places that offer both (e.g. Pelican, Porsche Atlanta Perimeter, Auto Atlanta, etc.)
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mepstein |
Aug 14 2022, 11:47 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,253 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I don’t know.
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Superhawk996 |
Aug 14 2022, 12:27 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,769 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
I only see the -01 part in PET in the older PET I downloaded a year or two ago.
But when I downloaded PET today online -- Like you, I now see the -03 part. Only thing I can say for sure is that the 914/6 cooler is different than the 911 cooler but I know that's not very helpful to know what the -03 part is. Based on my experience with Porsche and their changes to Porsche made to PET with the 914/4 CV joints . . . is that Porsche can't be trusted to know which parts fit their own vintage cars. |
Superhawk996 |
Aug 14 2022, 12:51 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,769 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
If I had to guess on price difference, it would be that the price has been upped for the -03 part and that the dealers are trying to clear out "obsolete" inventory (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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DennisV |
Aug 17 2022, 12:04 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 468 Joined: 8-August 20 From: Santa Rosa, CA Member No.: 24,575 Region Association: Northern California |
If I had to guess on price difference, it would be that the price has been upped for the -03 part and that the dealers are trying to clear out "obsolete" inventory (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Close. Here is the reply I got from Sunset: QUOTE Looks like 90110705901 supersedes to, and is replaced by 90110705903. So the 90110705903 is the latest version of the 2 numbers. 90110705901 - cannot be ordered anymore from Porsche. The available part number is of course $370 more. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
nditiz1 |
Aug 17 2022, 12:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 26-May 15 From: Mount Airy, Maryland Member No.: 18,763 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Kind of on the same lines, but not regarding price, is there a way to use the early style threaded oil cooler on a later style engine and use a right angle AN fitting?
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mepstein |
Aug 17 2022, 12:20 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,253 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Kind of on the same lines, but not regarding price, is there a way to use the early style threaded oil cooler on a later style engine and use a right angle AN fitting? I would just have Ben weld on whatever fitting you want. No leaks. The later cooler has a larger tube. |
914043 |
Aug 17 2022, 01:50 PM
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mb911 |
Aug 17 2022, 02:09 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,818 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Kind of on the same lines, but not regarding price, is there a way to use the early style threaded oil cooler on a later style engine and use a right angle AN fitting? I would just have Ben weld on whatever fitting you want. No leaks. The later cooler has a larger tube. I just bought a couple coolers to use as cores for exchange. |
mepstein |
Aug 17 2022, 02:19 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,253 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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Dave_Darling |
Aug 18 2022, 04:33 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,981 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Double check whatever you do get--the outlet on the 914-6 cooler points in a different direction than on a 911 cooler to clear the suspension console.
We have seen instances in the past where Porsche superceded a part to a different part that did not fit correctly or work correctly. My guess was that they ran out of the earlier part and called the replacement part "good enough" without actually trying to use it. This sounds like it might be the same thing. Maybe ask for a picture before you buy it? --DD |
DennisV |
Aug 18 2022, 06:13 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 468 Joined: 8-August 20 From: Santa Rosa, CA Member No.: 24,575 Region Association: Northern California |
Double check whatever you do get--the outlet on the 914-6 cooler points in a different direction than on a 911 cooler to clear the suspension console. Maybe ask for a picture before you buy it? That sounds like an excellent suggestion. Can you share a photo of the correct cooler? Thanks. |
Dave_Darling |
Aug 18 2022, 04:23 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,981 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...1&hl=cooler
The 911 cooler has the outlet come straight out of the cooler instead of bending as shown in the "Parts Vault" post above. See here for (an aftermarket) 911 cooler: https://www.fvd.net/us-en/91110704102/engin...30-1972-89.html --DD |
gms |
Aug 22 2022, 09:09 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,694 Joined: 12-March 04 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 1,785 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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pencap914 |
Apr 10 2024, 09:19 AM
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Just to be clear; the "911 style" oil cooler with the straight push-on fitting will not clear the suspension in a 914? (Picture below)
If that's the case, is it possible to have a skilled welder (*cough* @MB911 ) modify the stock 911 oil cooler to fit a 914? Or should I start shopping for a replacement cooler? The CFS #8260 looks like its made for a 914/6 conversion: https://y7y6i2a9.rocketcdn.me/wp-content/up...-8260-Flyer.pdf |
mb911 |
Apr 10 2024, 10:07 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,818 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Just to be clear; the "911 style" oil cooler with the straight push-on fitting will not clear the suspension in a 914? (Picture below) If that's the case, is it possible to have a skilled welder (*cough* @MB911 ) modify the stock 911 oil cooler to fit a 914? Or should I start shopping for a replacement cooler? The CFS #8260 looks like its made for a 914/6 conversion: https://y7y6i2a9.rocketcdn.me/wp-content/up...-8260-Flyer.pdf You betcha it’s on my website. I do them all the time@$150 |
mskala |
Apr 10 2024, 12:52 PM
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R Group: Members Posts: 1,925 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 79 Region Association: None |
I think Dave is probably right.
Just by accident I saw on my email from Sierra Madre Collection that P/N: 901.107.041.03 is "Oil Cooler, 911 (65-71)" and shows a pic with the straight outlet. |
mepstein |
Apr 10 2024, 12:56 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,253 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Unless it has to be original, Ben/MB911 is the go-to guy for the oil cooler mod.
Just make sure you pressure test the cooler before modding it. If it’s leaking, it’s done. |
johnhora |
Apr 10 2024, 03:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 866 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Derby City KY Member No.: 107 Region Association: None |
recently saw in Pano these new ones being made from a company called CSF...the 914-6 model has the correct curved outlet....
https://csfrace.com/world-exclusive-csf-por...ne-oil-coolers/ |
technicalninja |
Apr 10 2024, 04:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,171 Joined: 31-January 23 From: Granbury Texas Member No.: 27,135 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Usually, CSF stuff is better than most aftermarket available.
I like installing decent stuff! |
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