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My car has dealership installed AC so the front tow point is gone. I got it with a bent drop link I’m sure was the result of a past tow. I’m trying to figure out what my options are and found these tie downs from Jman. Has anyone used these or something similar? If so I would really appreciate a picture of one installed.
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,320 Joined: 11-November 11 From: Merrimac, WI Member No.: 13,770 Region Association: Upper MidWest ![]() ![]() |
Yes, those are 911 type and will fit. But, not with the front valance on without cutting holes in it. Mark
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 26-July 20 From: Montgomery, TX Member No.: 24,536 Region Association: Southwest Region ![]() ![]() |
I have them on my 1976 and they seem to work fine even with the valance
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Alan-B ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 156 Joined: 27-July 14 From: USA Member No.: 17,689 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
I have a similar situation and looked into a tow loop last year. Here's a thread discussing some options: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=353132
I went with a tow loop from Patrick Motorsports because it provides ground clearance and clears the LE spoiler. I don't know if it will clear the stock valance. I do wish it was parallel to the ground vs. the mount point. Easy to install with the wheel off the ground. |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 18-March 18 From: Jacksonville Member No.: 21,981 Region Association: South East States ![]() |
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Distracted Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,376 Joined: 25-August 08 From: Ladera Ranch, CA Member No.: 9,463 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
My car has dealership installed AC so the front tow point is gone. I got it with a bent drop link I’m sure was the result of a past tow. I’m trying to figure out what my options are and found these tie downs from Jman. Has anyone used these or something similar? If so I would really appreciate a picture of one installed. I’m assuming you have to install a spacer on the front bolt? |
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 26-July 20 From: Montgomery, TX Member No.: 24,536 Region Association: Southwest Region ![]() ![]() |
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 26-July 20 From: Montgomery, TX Member No.: 24,536 Region Association: Southwest Region ![]() ![]() |
sorry, I'm not very good at posting photos
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 18-March 18 From: Jacksonville Member No.: 21,981 Region Association: South East States ![]() |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,848 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch ![]() ![]() |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,848 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch ![]() ![]() |
By turning those around and eliminating the 3rd fastener you are likey going to find that they fold up when you need them.
Two fasteners creates a hinge point where they will bend when loaded. Also front suspension fasteners should be Grade 10.9 not 8.8. Metric grade 8.8 is basically equivalent to SAE grade 5. |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 18-March 18 From: Jacksonville Member No.: 21,981 Region Association: South East States ![]() |
By turning those around and eliminating the 3rd fastener you are likey going to find that they fold up when you need them. Two fasteners creates a hinge point where they will bend when loaded. Also front suspension fasteners should be Grade 10.9 not 8.8. Metric grade 8.8 is basically equivalent to SAE grade 5. If it fold great. Maybe it will create more clearance causing less chance of damage to the valance. I might also gusset it on the sides. Never work on my baja bug since it gets pulled hard sometimes. I had it up to the doors in mud a few months ago and it got snatched hard. Hopefully I never need this and if I do it’s a slow pull onto a flatbed. I’m also going to add a soft shackle to my trunk supply to go from this to any cable the tow guy wants to use. I will take your advice on the bolts though. Thanks. |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 18-March 18 From: Jacksonville Member No.: 21,981 Region Association: South East States ![]() |
Here is how I ended up mounting the Jman loop.
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I am Tangerine Racing ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,831 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
It really shouldn't be between the a-arm carrier and the body.
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,848 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch ![]() ![]() |
It really shouldn't be between the a-arm carrier and the body. I was concerned about that but saw lots of photos on line of people mounting them between. What is it I should be worried about? I don’t want to create a problem for a tow loop. You’ve now changed the geometry of the suspension. The most obvious is that the torsion bar will no longer be co-axially centered in the LCA. The rear end of torsion bar is fixed at the cross member. The front of the LCA is now shimmed down by the thickness of the material used (1/8” I’m guessing). At best - premature wear of the bushings. Worst - torsion bar begins rubbing inside the LCA, wears the bar and the LCA, leads to torsion bar failure. You will also have changed the anti dive characteristic of the front suspension to some degree. |
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"I got blisters on me fingers" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,782 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest ![]() ![]() |
Confused about intended use? Title says "Tow point" are those actually intended to tow with ? I thought they are more focused as a
Recovery point. Agree with previous comments, you really need that front bolt as it's the only that penetrates & is seam welded to the tub, & for fitment you have to remove the covers. |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 18-March 18 From: Jacksonville Member No.: 21,981 Region Association: South East States ![]() |
Confused about intended use? Title says "Tow point" are those actually intended to tow with ? I thought they are more focused as a Recovery point. Agree with previous comments, you really need that front bolt as it's the only that penetrates & is seam welded to the tub & for fitment you have to remove the covers. I’m trying to add a good place to hook a tow cable to in case I need to drag it up my trailer or a tow truck. I haven’t found one 914 specific that doesn’t stick out the front. This one was listed for a 914 but that front bolt no way matches the location on a 914. Also if I install it with the third bolt hole facing forward I can’t reinstall the torsion bar protector. Right now I’m thinking I’m going to keep it pointing the same way but move it below the mount bracket. The loop on this one is closer to the two bolts and shorter than the ones posted earlier in this thread so I think it will be strong enough. If someone has a better solution I’m all ears! |
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![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,584 Joined: 7-July 11 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 13,287 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
I carry a couple motorcycle tie down straps.
Wrap them around the front of the lower A arm. I have used them multiple time to load car onto trailer or flatbed. Just keep them in the trunk. |
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I am Tangerine Racing ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,831 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
I’m trying to add a good place to hook a tow cable to in case I need to drag it up my trailer or a tow truck. I haven’t found one 914 specific that doesn’t stick out the front. ... If someone has a better solution I’m all ears! I will be releasing a new product in just a few weeks which should fully address your needs and concerns. |
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