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> SOT: When did the hood badge change?
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post Sep 24 2022, 09:02 AM
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This might get some knickers in a quibbley but I'm trying to figure out had the 914 design team's vote to badge the car been honored, which badge would have come on my car. Porsche Classics shows the orange badge used through MY 1973 and the red badge beginning in MY 1974, but there is also this graphic showing the switched occurred sometime in '73.

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The best I can tell, the switch might have happened with the introduction of the 911 G-series in MY 1974 but I've had a hard time finding when actual production began. I did find this article saying it started in August, 1973 which might be a good clue.

That may be all I need to know, but does anyone have anything to add?
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post Sep 24 2022, 10:50 AM
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Doesn’t matter since 914’s aren’t supposed to have a badge - NARP (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

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post Sep 24 2022, 11:12 AM
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post Sep 24 2022, 12:03 PM
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Thanks both, but that wasn't the question. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)
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post Sep 24 2022, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(bbrock @ Sep 24 2022, 11:03 AM) *

Thanks both, but that wasn't the question. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)

Orange bars till ‘74 than red speckles but there wasn’t any 914s delivered with a badge from the factory, dealer installed.
There is a picture of a 914/6 in a manual that has a badge and Ferry Porsche was given a 914/8 that had the badge.

ps: all of the 914/6GTs had a badge on the rear fascia (actually a 356 hubcap badge) but nothing on the front hood.
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post Sep 24 2022, 12:34 PM
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I think you answered your own question. Orange badge for 73 and earlier and red for 74-76
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post Sep 24 2022, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(mgphoto @ Sep 24 2022, 11:30 AM) *

QUOTE(bbrock @ Sep 24 2022, 11:03 AM) *

Thanks both, but that wasn't the question. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)

Orange bars till ‘74 than red speckles but there wasn’t any 914s delivered with a badge from the factory, dealer installed.
There is a picture of a 914/6 in a manual that has a badge and Ferry Porsche was given a 914/8 that had the badge.

ps: all of the 914/6GTs had a badge on the rear fascia (actually a 356 hubcap badge) but nothing on the front hood.


Agree Orange bars till '74 then red. Have a '74 911 very original and it has orange bar.
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post Sep 24 2022, 01:37 PM
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Yup, if my car had a crest on the hood, it would be the orange one. If I ever felt the urge, I would likely order the decal they use on the GT3 cars. That would apply right on top of my PPF and no harm done that way. I will not drill holes in my hood. Now, that said, I really do not have any issues with the Porsche crest on the hood, so long as it is installed at the right height. After all, I have a 3.2 in my factory 6. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Sep 24 2022, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(bbrock @ Sep 24 2022, 07:02 AM) *

had the 914 design team's vote to badge the car been honored...


It wasnt, so totally up to you what you want to do.
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post Sep 24 2022, 06:10 PM
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I think the devil is in the details here. From what I’ve seen, if the car was built in ‘73, even if a ‘74 MY, it came with the orange. From CY 74 on, they were red.
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post Sep 24 2022, 08:09 PM
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When I bought my '74 Can-Am LE, built in February of 1974, it had an orange bar badge on the hood (in exactly the position specified by Porsche). And the original Connecticut dealer's invoice says "Porsche Emblem ...... No Charge" in the list of options so I assume that dealer had some older orange bar badges lingering in the Parts Department. Those orange bar badges go for good $$$ on eBay.
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post Sep 24 2022, 10:49 PM
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Yeah, this all makes sense to me. I think if the graphic is correct, they are referring to production dates rather than model year. I was curious when the switch was because I think the red badges show particularly nice against silver metallic, but my car has an April production date. I'm actually undecided if I'll badge the car. It's a lot to spend on a frivolous bauble, but I've always thought the hoods of light colored 914s have a lot of blank space and look like something is missing. IMO, the badge looks particularly nice against metallic colors. Whatever I decide, there will be no holes drilled. 3M trim tape works perfectly well to hold emblems on.
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post Sep 25 2022, 01:12 AM
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QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Sep 24 2022, 03:37 PM) *

Yup, if my car had a crest on the hood, it would be the orange one. If I ever felt the urge, I would likely order the decal they use on the GT3 cars. That would apply right on top of my PPF and no harm done that way. I will not drill holes in my hood. Now, that said, I really do not have any issues with the Porsche crest on the hood, so long as it is installed at the right height. After all, I have a 3.2 in my factory 6. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


Is there a factory spec for 'right height' ?
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post Sep 25 2022, 03:48 AM
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@bbrock

inspired by my sunday afternoon driving around north melbourne for an hour straight seeing how fast i could take a 90 degree gridiron city corner (in a city deserted due to a 4 day weekend thanks to death of QE2 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) i thought to myself i need a real badge on this go kart i own.

when i parked it up this arvo i sat down on a stool and smoked a peter styvesent while i enjoyed the smell off a really hot VW engine cooling off in the garage.
its been a long wet winter down here in north antarctica but today i got the car nice and warm.

dimension suggestions gratefully accepted for my piech designed VW to get it ready for spring time.



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post Sep 25 2022, 03:54 AM
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QUOTE(Van B @ Sep 24 2022, 06:10 PM) *

I think the devil is in the details here. From what I’ve seen, if the car was built in ‘73, even if a ‘74 MY, it came with the orange. From CY 74 on, they were red.


OT - sort of - i can't believe how quick you ( @VAn B ) bought those speed limiting dist rotors off @914Sixer .

not fair, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) i was asleep in the future. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

i got to stop being ahead of my time and get into living in the past!
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post Sep 25 2022, 06:31 AM
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Sorry wonki, but you did put the idea in my head lol.

Regarding position of the crest, on all Porsches that the marketing dept didn't F up, the crest is mounted centerline and 80mm from the lip of the hood to the bottom point on the crest.
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post Sep 25 2022, 06:52 AM
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Without measuring the distance, I believe they look best when you find the center of the headlight bucket height and place the top of the crest at that level. I have seen a lot of crest placed at the top line of the headlight bucket and to my eyes, that is high. But that is just my recollection. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Sep 25 2022, 07:23 AM
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QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Sep 25 2022, 04:52 AM) *

Without measuring the distance, I believe they look best when you find the center of the headlight bucket height and place the top of the crest at that level. I have seen a lot of crest placed at the top line of the headlight bucket and to my eyes, that is high. But that is just my recollection. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)



This is where mine is. PO drilled the hood so I just went with it. Attached Image
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post Sep 25 2022, 08:41 AM
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That's the spot I would install one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Enjoying the comments,

You could buy a 911, in 1974, still with orange bars.

And then this question, why, in the first place, did 914s leave the factory with no hood badge?

Did factory not want them?
Did designers not want them?
Did they try to make the car less expensive?
Who came along and said “no badge”?
Any other reason?

That seems to be a big decision to not put any mark on the front of a car.
They spent $ (marks) to put the Porsche letters across the grill, (mine in 74 were plastic)

I wonder if prototypes had a badge?
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