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r_towle
post Oct 16 2022, 09:02 PM
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Street, stock, 15’s
What brand are people finding out there that are a good tire for the car?
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post Oct 16 2022, 09:11 PM
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https://www.tirerack.com/tires/vredestein-sprint-classic

I’m going with these in a 185 because it should correct my speedo error. But you can get them in a 165 as well.

Otherwise you can get reproductions from Coker Tire
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post Oct 17 2022, 03:40 AM
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i'm running michelin XAS 165s.

f-en fantastic. made of something way softer than back in the day.
stick like shite to a blanket.
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cost an arm and a leg down here near the south pole.
but while it hurt the bank balance i am not complaining about the ......result.
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post Oct 17 2022, 06:20 AM
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I recently purchased a set of Nexen 175/65 15 from my local guy for $80. Nothing fancy, but they give a nice ride, probably close to stock
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post Oct 17 2022, 07:16 AM
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I've got about 4,000 miles on a set of BF Goodrich Advantage T/As (195/65R15) that I purchased on sale at Costco about a year ago. I believe these closely match the original tire size but just wider. I must say that I'm really impressed. They're very quiet yet perform very well. Longevity has yet to be proven. However, at that kind of mileage, it'll take me 10 years to get to 40,000 miles (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

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It looks like Vredestein has introduce a new v rated performance tire in 195/60-15 size. It kind of looks like the old Pirelli P600. This might be a good choice, although not many reviews or ratings yet:

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?ti...romCompare1=yes
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post Oct 17 2022, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(live free & drive @ Oct 17 2022, 04:27 PM) *

It looks like Vredestein has introduce a new v rated performance tire in 195/60-15 size. It kind of looks like the old Pirelli P600. This might be a good choice, although not many reviews or ratings yet:

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?ti...romCompare1=yes



The concerns about keeping the tires in cold conditions is a concern with these tires.
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Note: Tires exposed to temperatures of 20 degrees F (-7 degrees C) or lower must be permitted to gradually return to temperatures of at least 40 degrees F (5 degrees C) for at least 24 hours before they are flexed in any manner, such as by adjusting inflation pressures, mounting them on wheels, or using them to support, roll or drive a vehicle.

Looks like with these tires you pretty much have to the keep the car on jack stands over the winter.

Zach
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post Oct 17 2022, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(friethmiller @ Oct 17 2022, 08:16 AM) *

I've got about 4,000 miles on a set of BF Goodrich Advantage T/As (195/65R15) that I purchased on sale at Costco about a year ago. I believe these closely match the original tire size but just wider. I must say that I'm really impressed. They're very quiet yet perform very well. Longevity has yet to be proven. However, at that kind of mileage, it'll take me 10 years to get to 40,000 miles (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

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We have the same tires on the Factory six. They are good tires, but definitely not in the same performance class as a high performance summer only tire. They will squeal a lot when you get close to the limit. But they are a really good tire for a driver.

If you are looking for max performance, look for the tire used on a Miata for autocross. They use the same 15 inch rims on a Miata.

Hope that helps!

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post Oct 18 2022, 08:39 AM
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QUOTE(VaccaRabite @ Oct 17 2022, 12:47 PM) *

QUOTE(live free & drive @ Oct 17 2022, 04:27 PM) *

It looks like Vredestein has introduce a new v rated performance tire in 195/60-15 size. It kind of looks like the old Pirelli P600. This might be a good choice, although not many reviews or ratings yet:

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?ti...romCompare1=yes



The concerns about keeping the tires in cold conditions is a concern with these tires.
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Note: Tires exposed to temperatures of 20 degrees F (-7 degrees C) or lower must be permitted to gradually return to temperatures of at least 40 degrees F (5 degrees C) for at least 24 hours before they are flexed in any manner, such as by adjusting inflation pressures, mounting them on wheels, or using them to support, roll or drive a vehicle.

Looks like with these tires you pretty much have to the keep the car on jack stands over the winter.

Zach


I put a set on my Bumblebee project last month, Wanted to go with the 165s but they were backordered a few months so went with the 175s.
Cool vintage look, proper sidewall height, and while I havent gone to crazy yet (still sorting the car out) the little i have pushed them they feel pretty sticky. It does feel like an autocross compound on a narrow, high sidewall, vintage tread tire.

Thankfully my garage is heated.


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Have XWX with the dog bone pattern from Michelin. Got them from Coker.

Pretty expensive but nice ride.


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post Oct 18 2022, 09:05 AM
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Great thread!
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post Oct 18 2022, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Oct 17 2022, 03:56 PM) *

We have the same tires on the Factory six. They are good tires, but definitely not in the same performance class as a high performance summer only tire. They will squeal a lot when you get close to the limit. But they are a really good tire for a driver.

If you are looking for max performance, look for the tire used on a Miata for autocross. They use the same 15 inch rims on a Miata.

Hope that helps!

Clay


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) My bumblebee project might be getting a set of Vredesteins when I finally finish it in about 5 years (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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Has anybody tried the Michelin XAS | 165VR15 tires? Cheaper than the XWXs but still expensive... because Michelin makes them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Update: Just saw the post from above. Interesting. Might be a good option for an original sized tire.
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post Oct 18 2022, 09:59 AM
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I went with the V version, sticks like glue but I hate the look.
45*F minimum temp, I’m in Los Angeles, not getting below that.
The sidewalls are hedious, the designers name?


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I really miss the old Pirelli P6’s nice thread pattern, V compound, 15 inch with various widths.
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QUOTE(Jett @ Oct 18 2022, 08:57 AM) *

Have XWX with the dog bone pattern from Michelin. Got them from Coker.

Pretty expensive but nice ride.


Yes, I looked into the XWX, but bailed when was digging into my pocket, CSOB

Nice looking Palma
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post Oct 18 2022, 11:08 AM
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I put a set on my Bumblebee project last month, Wanted to go with the 165s but they were backordered a few months so went with the 175s.
Cool vintage look, proper sidewall height, and while I havent gone to crazy yet (still sorting the car out) the little i have pushed them they feel pretty sticky. It does feel like an autocross compound on a narrow, high sidewall, vintage tread tire.

Thankfully my garage is heated.


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I need tires for my car and I've been looking at these for a while now. But I get worried about that damn disclaimer. I actually drive my car on crisp days. I'd need to keep 2 sets of wheels for the 914. :-/ I guess I need to suck it up and just get another set of all seasons. :-(

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My tires are about 10 yrs old. Is it time for a change? Currently running 185/70s sprint classics. How about these as a replacement?

Pirelli P4 PERSIST AS PLUS - SIZE: 195/65R15
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to all those running 195/65-15, I think you're giving away miles on your odometer. I clocked mine at 5mph faster than GPS actual.

Zach, I'm all in on the Vred's. I wouldn't worry too much about the temperature restriction unless you're actually in freezing conditions. My Michelin supersport tires have the same caution, but I routinely drive the 911 on crisp winter mornings. They never come fully up to temp, but they do generate grip after a few miles of driving.
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QUOTE(Van B @ Oct 18 2022, 11:38 AM) *

to all those running 195/65-15, I think you're giving away miles on your odometer. I clocked mine at 5mph faster than GPS actual.

Zach, I'm all in on the Vred's. I wouldn't worry too much about the temperature restriction unless you're actually in freezing conditions. My Michelin supersport tires have the same caution, but I routinely drive the 911 on crisp winter mornings. They never come fully up to temp, but they do generate grip after a few miles of driving.



The rolling radius of the 195/65-15 tires is 25”, vs 25.1 for the 165 size. The speedometers have always been optimistic, but the odometer should still be quite accurate.
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QUOTE(rgolia @ Oct 18 2022, 03:17 PM) *

My tires are about 10 yrs old. Is it time for a change? Currently running 185/70s sprint classics. How about these as a replacement?

Pirelli P4 PERSIST AS PLUS - SIZE: 195/65R15

Tires are only safe up to six years.
After that, in high temp highway situations, the can delaminate and cause a ton of body, fender damage as they just seem to fall apart at speed.

One time, my FIL…i trailered his old Volvo home….it was not cheap or pretty to fix.
My motto, tires are cheaper than bodywork.

I just replaced some old tires on my 911 and the guy at the local shop argued the old ones are perfectly good. I told him go ahead…they are free.

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