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> New 2.8 Liter Six for the Racecar, I'll be asking a bunch of Conversion Questions
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post Oct 21 2022, 03:28 PM
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The first question I have is related to modifications to the engine shelf pieces required for the 6-cylinder conversion. I noticed the Patrick Motorsports sells an expensive engine shelf kit for the 6-cylinder conversion. But, since the 6-cylinder is going into a Racecar, can I just cut out the entire engine shelf to maximize the available space in the engine compartment? Or, has anyone made a template that can be used to modify the 4-cylinder engine shelf to accommodate the 911 engines? I'd like just to remove the shelf parts if they are not needed. Thoughts on this? How do you other racers handle this. Many more questions to follow. I know there are many conversion threads out there, but it's hard to weed through them to see if they address the question(s) that I have. Plus most of Tigre are for street car conversions, not race cars.

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post Oct 22 2022, 04:17 PM
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I’m not running any engine shelf or tin either.


Did you get conversion parts with the motor?
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post Oct 23 2022, 06:23 AM
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QUOTE(brant @ Oct 22 2022, 04:17 PM) *

I’m not running any engine shelf or tin either.


Did you get conversion parts with the motor?


Drivetrain came out of another 914, but the only conversion part that came with it is the engine half of the front engine mount. So I will need engine oil tank, external oil cooler (?), transaxle pump and cooler, headers, etc. I also need a dual plug distributor. So if anyone out there has anything on a shelf in their garage and wants to sell it, please let me know.
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post Oct 23 2022, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(motorvated @ Oct 23 2022, 05:23 AM) *

QUOTE(brant @ Oct 22 2022, 04:17 PM) *

I’m not running any engine shelf or tin either.


Did you get conversion parts with the motor?


Drivetrain came out of another 914, but the only conversion part that came with it is the engine half of the front engine mount. So I will need engine oil tank, external oil cooler (?), transaxle pump and cooler, headers, etc. I also need a dual plug distributor. So if anyone out there has anything on a shelf in their garage and wants to sell it, please let me know.



Not great, but here are some pics of my engine compartment. My engine has a 911 style (FAT Perf.) fan shroud so it's similar to your 6 cyl fit, but more space between fan and firewall. I do have a dry sump with the oil tank taking up some of the drivers side engine compartment. 6 installs typically put the tank up in the front trunk. My car has 2 coolers in front with lines back to the tank. I'll take pics of that soon too.

Rear trunk area cut out for access to trans, cv's etc
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The original "shelf" with the channel for weatherstripping is mostly intact, but cut away where air ducting from the front was channeled back to the engine. With the 911 type shroud and no engine "side tins" it leaves quite a bit of gap between engine and firewall / engine compartment
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Oil tank is on the drivers side against the firewall. As said. with a 6 there's probably not room back here so most people put the tank in the front. Mine is a 4 so it has a 1.5 gal tank. You'll want a bigger one for as 6.
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I'm overdue to put together a photo thread on this car. It's pretty well built. I'll try to get to that soon - ish....
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motorvated   New 2.8 Liter Six for the Racecar   Oct 21 2022, 03:28 PM
stownsen914   You mean the engine tin, or the horizontal shelf t...   Oct 21 2022, 06:25 PM
GregAmy   Ditto on my /4: no tin surround, it's all trim...   Oct 22 2022, 07:40 AM
Charles Freeborn   Mine has all the tin removed too - "firewall...   Oct 22 2022, 09:03 AM
motorvated   Mine has all the tin removed too - "firewall...   Oct 22 2022, 10:48 AM
brant   I’m not running any engine shelf or tin either. ...   Oct 22 2022, 04:17 PM
motorvated   I’m not running any engine shelf or tin either....   Oct 23 2022, 06:23 AM
Charles Freeborn   I’m not running any engine shelf or tin either...   Oct 23 2022, 03:35 PM
BillJ   Many go with JB Racings distributor. Jbracing.co...   Oct 23 2022, 09:39 AM
motorvated   Many go with JB Racings distributor. Jbracing.c...   Oct 23 2022, 12:01 PM
brant   Many go with JB Racings distributor. Jbracing....   Oct 24 2022, 10:06 AM
infraredcalvin   My -4 has FAT 911 fan shroud with no additional ti...   Oct 23 2022, 12:08 PM
BillJ   Depending on where you want to drive the car be ca...   Oct 23 2022, 05:50 PM
infraredcalvin   You should also consider the stock location and s...   Oct 30 2022, 01:31 PM
motorvated   You should also consider the stock location and ...   Oct 31 2022, 08:25 PM
BillJ   Quick question. Why a 2.8? For most groups that ...   Oct 25 2022, 07:14 AM
motorvated   Quick question. Why a 2.8? For most groups that...   Oct 25 2022, 08:00 AM
Charles Freeborn   Quick question. Why a 2.8? For most groups tha...   Oct 27 2022, 09:14 AM
brant   Is it a hemmigway motor? Or 2nd guess. Matt in ca...   Oct 25 2022, 08:37 AM
BillJ   Makes sense and sounds like you have the perfect a...   Oct 25 2022, 07:19 PM
gms   engine shelf left in, no engine sheet metal instal...   Oct 26 2022, 11:59 AM
BadToTheBown   Mine is all removed, great access to everything......   Oct 27 2022, 11:56 PM
Krieger   On my 3.0 track car I run the stock tank with a co...   Oct 31 2022, 11:03 PM
brant   The motors create a lot of heat Your about to doub...   Nov 1 2022, 07:08 AM
motorvated   The motors create a lot of heat Your about to dou...   Nov 1 2022, 08:07 AM
campbellcj   I kept the shelf and tin in mine, and also the tru...   Nov 1 2022, 11:29 AM
brant   I dump my 2 front coolers through the wheel wells ...   Nov 1 2022, 03:47 PM
motorvated   I dump my 2 front coolers through the wheel wells...   Nov 3 2022, 07:14 PM
stownsen914   my mechanic told me no... said that 200 degree ai...   Nov 5 2022, 10:24 AM
mlindner   I have both the engine shelf and tin. But for bett...   Nov 4 2022, 06:22 AM
brant   I run a 901 instead of the 915 I ran my trans coo...   Nov 4 2022, 07:00 AM
Charles Freeborn   My front coolers and ducting for brakes. Don't...   Nov 13 2022, 10:18 AM


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