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Tire recommendations? |
rjames |
Jan 6 2023, 06:10 PM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 3,920 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Looking to replace my 10 year old Eagle GTs. They are 195/60/15 but seems like only 195/65/15s are available now when looking briefly. They will go on 4 lug Mahles under stock fenders. Pretty sure I couldn't get 205s under the fenders without rolling them (not interested in doing so) because it's already pretty tight on one side.
What does the 914 brain trust recommend these days? |
live free & drive |
Jan 6 2023, 08:43 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 156 Joined: 29-June 16 From: New Hampshire Member No.: 20,159 Region Association: None |
I think these might be worth a try:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?ti...romCompare1=yes Make sure they are Sprint (+) or Sprint plus - there are other variations of the Vredestein Sprint name and they are not the same... PS these are a new tire intended for the "classics" market |
steuspeed |
Jan 6 2023, 11:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,005 Joined: 12-July 11 From: Portland, Oregon Member No.: 13,308 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
195/65/15 is the correct diameter. Choices are very limited though.
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wonkipop |
Jan 7 2023, 12:56 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,259 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
here we go again. tyres!
but....... go skinny and sh#t yourself. its so much fun. and the steering is so light. |
Geezer914 |
Jan 7 2023, 06:08 AM
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Geezer914 Group: Members Posts: 1,393 Joined: 18-March 09 From: Salem, NJ Member No.: 10,179 Region Association: North East States |
How cold does it get in WA? Those are summer tires and they will crack if run in cold weather.
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Jamie |
Jan 7 2023, 09:15 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,025 Joined: 13-October 04 From: Georgetown,KY Member No.: 2,939 Region Association: South East States |
195/65/15 is the correct diameter. Choices are very limited though. I've been running Michelin Exalto A/S 205/65/15's on stock steel 5.5"rims for several years with no clearance problems on original body. Diameter is very close to stock with very little speedo error, but don't know if they are still available since originally purchased from Tire Rack. |
Van B |
Jan 7 2023, 11:11 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,582 Joined: 20-October 21 From: Maryland Member No.: 26,011 Region Association: None |
here we go again. tyres! but....... go skinny and sh#t yourself. its so much fun. and the steering is so light. My man! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Jan 7 2023, 11:15 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,832 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
michelin now makes a very reasonably priced 195/65x15 that we are putting on the cars. It is the exact size for keeping the speedometer reading correctly with an extra bit of width over the standard 165x15
Looking to replace my 10 year old Eagle GTs. They are 195/60/15 but seems like only 195/65/15s are available now when looking briefly. They will go on 4 lug Mahles under stock fenders. Pretty sure I couldn't get 205s under the fenders without rolling them (not interested in doing so) because it's already pretty tight on one side. What does the 914 brain trust recommend these days? |
bbrock |
Jan 7 2023, 11:27 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I've got 7K miles on my 195/65/15 Firehawk AS tires now and love them. Quiet, nimble, and plenty of grip for me. Get good reviews in the performance all weather tire category. I like to hit the twisties pretty hard and the tires have more grip than my nerve. I like them so much I'll probably put them on the DD when it is time for new tires.
Ditto what @Geezer914 said. I looked at summer performance tires when I was shopping but our evening temps in summer are often below the minimum those tires were designed to run at. Just make sure to check the fine print. |
Geezer914 |
Jan 7 2023, 01:05 PM
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Geezer914 Group: Members Posts: 1,393 Joined: 18-March 09 From: Salem, NJ Member No.: 10,179 Region Association: North East States |
I am running Firestone Fire Hawks AS also in 195/60-15. Looks like they no longer offer that size. That was the only performance tire offered in that size.
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Cairo94507 |
Jan 7 2023, 01:20 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,725 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
I really like Michelin tires and am probably going to order a set of the 195x65x15 Primacy A/S for my car. I currently have 195x55x15 and really want to get a bit taller sidewall. Also, though stupid, it is a good looking tire without huge graphics on it. A full set delivered from Tire Rack is $630.60. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Van B |
Jan 7 2023, 02:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,582 Joined: 20-October 21 From: Maryland Member No.: 26,011 Region Association: None |
michelin now makes a very reasonably priced 195/65x15 that we are putting on the cars. It is the exact size for keeping the speedometer reading correctly with an extra bit of width over the standard 165x15 Looking to replace my 10 year old Eagle GTs. They are 195/60/15 but seems like only 195/65/15s are available now when looking briefly. They will go on 4 lug Mahles under stock fenders. Pretty sure I couldn't get 205s under the fenders without rolling them (not interested in doing so) because it's already pretty tight on one side. What does the 914 brain trust recommend these days? What tire specifically? So, many people on this forum say 195/65-15 is correct for the speedo, but my GPS testing says not. All brands in this size are right at 25” diameter which yields a 5mph fast indication error. A 165HR15 by comparison is a 25.4” diameter, which is still shy of what you would need to make indicated = GPS actual. A 26.5” diameter is what you need to get your speedo to read true… which is a 185VR15 |
bbrock |
Jan 7 2023, 04:27 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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wonkipop |
Jan 7 2023, 04:58 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,259 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
michelin now makes a very reasonably priced 195/65x15 that we are putting on the cars. It is the exact size for keeping the speedometer reading correctly with an extra bit of width over the standard 165x15 Looking to replace my 10 year old Eagle GTs. They are 195/60/15 but seems like only 195/65/15s are available now when looking briefly. They will go on 4 lug Mahles under stock fenders. Pretty sure I couldn't get 205s under the fenders without rolling them (not interested in doing so) because it's already pretty tight on one side. What does the 914 brain trust recommend these days? What tire specifically? So, many people on this forum say 195/65-15 is correct for the speedo, but my GPS testing says not. All brands in this size are right at 25” diameter which yields a 5mph fast indication error. A 165HR15 by comparison is a 25.4” diameter, which is still shy of what you would need to make indicated = GPS actual. A 26.5” diameter is what you need to get your speedo to read true… which is a 185VR15 which is what you can get as a pirelli cinturato remake. its what all the early 911 guys now run down here. its not quite a sh#t yourself tyre as the 165 XAS i run but i hear the steering is still beautifully light. expensive as hell though. although mayber vredestein make that size? |
Van B |
Jan 7 2023, 05:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,582 Joined: 20-October 21 From: Maryland Member No.: 26,011 Region Association: None |
Only vred or the coker tire remakes by my searching. That’s why I’m opting for the vred tires. I trust them to be more consistent in quality and they are a better price point and availability.
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wonkipop |
Jan 7 2023, 05:59 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,259 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
@Van B
this is the one the 911 guys use down here. they will have a knife fight outside the tyre shop to take a set and then the tyre guy takes the winner's wallet, empties it and sets it on fire with a blow torch. pandemic aftermath means they trickle in. 25.67 inch diameter fitted if you convert the table. |
914043 |
Jan 7 2023, 09:46 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 87 Joined: 2-April 19 From: California Member No.: 23,007 Region Association: Central California |
michelin now makes a very reasonably priced 195/65x15 that we are putting on the cars. It is the exact size for keeping the speedometer reading correctly with an extra bit of width over the standard 165x15 Looking to replace my 10 year old Eagle GTs. They are 195/60/15 but seems like only 195/65/15s are available now when looking briefly. They will go on 4 lug Mahles under stock fenders. Pretty sure I couldn't get 205s under the fenders without rolling them (not interested in doing so) because it's already pretty tight on one side. What does the 914 brain trust recommend these days? What tire specifically? So, many people on this forum say 195/65-15 is correct for the speedo, but my GPS testing says not. All brands in this size are right at 25” diameter which yields a 5mph fast indication error. A 165HR15 by comparison is a 25.4” diameter, which is still shy of what you would need to make indicated = GPS actual. A 26.5” diameter is what you need to get your speedo to read true… which is a 185VR15 according to tiresize.com 165/80/15 is 25.4 185/70 15 is 25.2 and 195/65.15 is 25.0 with a speedometer reading of minus 1.5 mph with the 195 at 90 mph or 88.6 |
Van B |
Jan 7 2023, 10:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,582 Joined: 20-October 21 From: Maryland Member No.: 26,011 Region Association: None |
michelin now makes a very reasonably priced 195/65x15 that we are putting on the cars. It is the exact size for keeping the speedometer reading correctly with an extra bit of width over the standard 165x15 Looking to replace my 10 year old Eagle GTs. They are 195/60/15 but seems like only 195/65/15s are available now when looking briefly. They will go on 4 lug Mahles under stock fenders. Pretty sure I couldn't get 205s under the fenders without rolling them (not interested in doing so) because it's already pretty tight on one side. What does the 914 brain trust recommend these days? What tire specifically? So, many people on this forum say 195/65-15 is correct for the speedo, but my GPS testing says not. All brands in this size are right at 25” diameter which yields a 5mph fast indication error. A 165HR15 by comparison is a 25.4” diameter, which is still shy of what you would need to make indicated = GPS actual. A 26.5” diameter is what you need to get your speedo to read true… which is a 185VR15 according to tiresize.com 165/80/15 is 25.4 185/70 15 is 25.2 and 195/65.15 is 25.0 with a speedometer reading of minus 1.5 mph with the 195 at 90 mph or 88.6 None of that is relevant until you asses your current speedometer error via GPS. Ex: OE tire size for my 996 C2 is 265/35R18. But a 275/40R18 gives me an exact match to GPS on my speedometer. |
Van B |
Jan 7 2023, 10:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,582 Joined: 20-October 21 From: Maryland Member No.: 26,011 Region Association: None |
Your speedo gear is also clocking your odometer so, I’m not looking to give away ghost miles. Modern cars using can bus systems can be internally calibrated, but on our analog rides we have to do it physically.
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914043 |
Jan 7 2023, 11:02 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 87 Joined: 2-April 19 From: California Member No.: 23,007 Region Association: Central California |
Your speedo gear is also clocking your odometer so, I’m not looking to give away ghost miles. Modern cars using can bus systems can be internally calibrated, but on our analog rides we have to do it physically. don't understand your reasoning, in your example what you say is exact shows 1.5 inch difference in height and 5 mph more at 90mph. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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