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> Aftermarket FI options for Type 4 motors 2056 or larger, Who here has gone this route and is it worth it? What options do we have?
DRPHIL914
post Feb 6 2023, 09:05 AM
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i started looking into this 2 years ago when i was planning my rebuild motor after the drpped valve seat on the OEM motor.
I ended up building a nice 2056 with increased compression, brand new heads, counter balanced crank and of course the cam is performance minded as well.
to start i installed the d-jet and later last year i added a 50mm bored out stock throttle body from Tangerine/Chris Foley. Yes this helped a great deal, but we are still limited due to the d-jet and the MPS. So there are a few people out there that make ITB( independant throttle body) that could be used.
One is Jenvey, and i see that PMB is carrying those. It looks ike they are mated to what ever IDF intake manifold you choose. there are 40, 45, 48 options. mated with 350cc injectors.
I am wondering other than the CB performance stuff that has been available for a while, others have come to the table, who here has played around with this ? over the years ive read a lot on others using the megasquirt and micro etc and it seemd they were very difficult to tune and set up with lots of problems, trial and error.

I am looking for advice on what to stay away from and what are the pitfalls and mistakes we can avoid before jumping into this.

Look forward to some input, thanks!!

Phil
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DRPHIL914   Aftermarket FI options for Type 4 motors 2056 or larger   Feb 6 2023, 09:05 AM
DRPHIL914   forgot to add this link, its the PMB page listing ...   Feb 6 2023, 09:06 AM
GregAmy   We have several good discussion topics already goi...   Feb 6 2023, 09:30 AM
DRPHIL914   We have several good discussion topics already go...   Feb 6 2023, 09:45 AM
scott_in_nh   We have several good discussion topics already go...   Feb 8 2023, 04:37 PM
GregAmy   That was a good read - thanks for taking the time ...   Feb 8 2023, 04:57 PM
scott_in_nh   That was a good read - thanks for taking the time...   Feb 8 2023, 05:25 PM
GregAmy   Well, thinking outside the box, there's no rea...   Feb 6 2023, 09:53 AM
Geezer914   2056, 9:1 CR. 9550 cam, 50mm vanagon throttle bod...   Feb 6 2023, 10:10 AM
rgolia   I am looking hard at this as I am getting tired of...   Feb 6 2023, 01:48 PM
mihai914   I am looking hard at this as I am getting tired o...   Feb 7 2023, 08:04 AM
914Sixer   Currently sold out but more on the way.   Feb 6 2023, 02:05 PM
DRPHIL914   ok wow lots of great comments here i just got caug...   Feb 7 2023, 10:57 AM
Superhawk996   seems keeping direct injection is best Totally...   Feb 7 2023, 12:30 PM
GregAmy   You can do that. I just decided to use the stock r...   Feb 6 2023, 04:11 PM
billh1963   Probably a stupid question but are Holley sniper a...   Feb 6 2023, 04:18 PM
GregAmy   Probably a stupid question but are Holley sniper ...   Feb 6 2023, 04:35 PM
mihai914   Probably a stupid question but are Holley sniper ...   Feb 7 2023, 07:46 AM
Superhawk996   Probably a stupid question but are Holley sniper...   Feb 7 2023, 08:58 AM
914werke   Ive talked to those guys, it seems the real value ...   Feb 6 2023, 06:35 PM
JamesM   Look forward to some input, thanks!! Phi...   Feb 6 2023, 07:19 PM
MSGGrunt   I have converted my 1969 TR6 with twin SU side dra...   Feb 6 2023, 07:24 PM
emerygt350   If it were me, I would see if the stock FI will wo...   Feb 7 2023, 08:33 AM
emerygt350   I work with early tbi (CFI in the ford world). It...   Feb 7 2023, 10:35 AM
Superhawk996   I work with early tbi (CFI in the ford world). I...   Feb 7 2023, 12:22 PM
Jack Standz   I work with early tbi (CFI in the ford world). I...   Feb 7 2023, 01:03 PM
Aerostatwv   I thought there is a difference with injectors. Th...   Feb 7 2023, 11:02 AM
Superhawk996   I thought there is a difference with injectors. T...   Feb 7 2023, 12:36 PM
Superhawk996   What is with with the love of TBI? Sure dual TBI...   Feb 7 2023, 01:32 PM
mihai914   What is with with the love of TBI? Sure dual TB...   Feb 7 2023, 02:46 PM
JamesM   Sniper EFI, FiTEch and all other similar product...   Feb 7 2023, 03:19 PM
Superhawk996   Using the term "Self Tune" is along the...   Feb 7 2023, 03:38 PM
mihai914   [quote name='JamesM' post='3056265' date='Feb 7 2...   Feb 7 2023, 04:04 PM
emerygt350   What is with with the love of TBI? Sure dual T...   Feb 7 2023, 03:46 PM
Jack Standz   What is with with the love of TBI? Sure dual TB...   Feb 7 2023, 03:38 PM
rhodyguy   A local member had a big T4 and I think he used th...   Feb 7 2023, 01:43 PM
rbzymek   I worked at Ford in the engine controls department...   Feb 7 2023, 02:01 PM
Superhawk996   Fair points but let me address throttle by wire. ...   Feb 7 2023, 03:56 PM
GregAmy   The safety implications of moving to throttle by ...   Feb 7 2023, 04:14 PM
Superhawk996   :beer3: The initial Audi unintended acceleration ...   Feb 7 2023, 04:38 PM
Superhawk996   The Toyota unintended acceleration issue was a res...   Feb 7 2023, 04:41 PM
mihai914   Food for thought: https://www.holley.com/blog/pos...   Feb 7 2023, 05:11 PM
Superhawk996   Food for thought: https://www.holley.com/blog/po...   Feb 7 2023, 05:21 PM
Jack Standz   Well, I don't know how Edelbrock got it to wor...   Feb 7 2023, 06:45 PM
Superhawk996   Well, I don't know how Edelbrock got it to wo...   Feb 7 2023, 07:29 PM
emerygt350   No fun car of mine is in spec. And they both have...   Feb 7 2023, 07:30 PM
Superhawk996   Was reading the Holly quick start guide. This gui...   Feb 7 2023, 07:53 PM
bkrantz   I have the Dub Shop kit on my 2056. As delivered ...   Feb 7 2023, 09:12 PM
DRPHIL914   I have the Dub Shop kit on my 2056. As delivered...   Feb 8 2023, 07:51 AM
rgolia   I have the Dub Shop kit on my 2056. As delivere...   Feb 8 2023, 11:52 AM
DRPHIL914   [quote name='bkrantz' post='3056369' date='Feb 7...   Feb 8 2023, 12:57 PM
DRPHIL914   [quote name='bkrantz' post='3056369' date='Feb 7...   Feb 8 2023, 12:57 PM
mihai914   I have the Dub Shop kit on my 2056. As delivere...   Feb 8 2023, 01:20 PM
DRPHIL914   [quote name='DRPHIL914' post='3056437' date='Feb ...   Feb 8 2023, 01:36 PM
rgolia   I have the Dub Shop kit on my 2056. As delivered...   Feb 8 2023, 11:53 AM
bkrantz   I have the Dub Shop kit on my 2056. As delivere...   Feb 8 2023, 09:09 PM
rgolia   [quote name='bkrantz' post='3056369' date='Feb 7...   Feb 9 2023, 08:40 AM
bkrantz   [quote name='bkrantz' post='3056613' date='Feb 8 ...   Feb 9 2023, 09:03 PM
bkrantz   [quote name='bkrantz' post='3056613' date='Feb 8 ...   Mar 24 2023, 08:54 PM
emerygt350   superhawk, that is awesome. However, I have had a...   Feb 8 2023, 07:24 AM
GeorgeKopf   Has anybody looked at Simple Digital Systems for a...   Feb 8 2023, 02:45 PM
mihai914   Ok, to keep the ball rolling, can we also talk abo...   Feb 8 2023, 07:33 PM
mepstein   Installing FI is never cheap. People always undere...   Feb 8 2023, 08:28 PM
r_towle   Last time I looked at this CBPerformance sold comp...   Feb 8 2023, 10:54 PM
Superhawk996   :agree: Like rgolia, I’ve leaned toward DubSho...   Feb 9 2023, 08:48 AM
mihai914   I found this thread specifically about the Dub Sho...   Feb 9 2023, 10:45 AM
GregAmy   Just a quick bump to report a new "find...   Mar 24 2023, 01:57 PM
jd74914   That’s wild. Had to have been done in the late 9...   Mar 24 2023, 07:55 PM
GregAmy   That’s wild. Had to have been done in the late ...   Mar 24 2023, 08:55 PM
jd74914   :agree: That stuff really was ahead of it’s time...   Mar 25 2023, 05:04 AM
GregAmy   That’s before my time-I would have been in elem...   Mar 25 2023, 05:44 AM
r_towle   Back about 15,years ago, I tuned a 2.4 liter to 15...   Mar 25 2023, 09:16 AM
targa72e   Not quite 914 FI related but Porsche related. I re...   Mar 25 2023, 10:24 PM
VaccaRabite   One of the things I'd be wary of with the Dub ...   Mar 27 2023, 06:23 AM
GregAmy   One of the things I'd be wary of with the Dub...   Mar 27 2023, 11:19 AM
GregAmy   [quote name='VaccaRabite' post='3067937' date='Ma...   Mar 27 2023, 05:28 PM
rick 918-S   [quote name='VaccaRabite' post='3067937' date='M...   Mar 28 2023, 01:14 AM
r_towle   [quote name='GregAmy' post='3068081' date='Mar 27...   Apr 9 2024, 02:43 PM
VaccaRabite   [quote name='VaccaRabite' post='3067937' date='M...   Mar 28 2023, 05:23 AM
GregAmy   Interesting. I'm assuming the timing retard ...   Mar 28 2023, 05:41 AM
Geezer914   Search for a used Ljet system. You can adjust the...   Mar 27 2023, 09:31 AM
ClayPerrine   Search for a used Ljet system. You can adjust th...   Mar 27 2023, 10:57 AM
falcor75   Search for a used Ljet system. You can adjust t...   Mar 27 2023, 12:30 PM
jd74914   Controlling idle with spark timing is really the w...   Mar 27 2023, 11:52 PM
jd74914   In tank is the way to go if you can make it work. ...   Mar 28 2023, 01:31 AM
ClayPerrine   In tank is the way to go if you can make it work....   Mar 28 2023, 05:04 AM
Gatornapper   Impecable timing as to this thread - almost as if ...   Apr 8 2024, 06:55 PM
DRPHIL914   Impecable timing as to this thread - almost as if...   Apr 9 2024, 10:40 AM
DRPHIL914   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Apr 9 2024, 10:41 AM
VaccaRabite   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show...   Apr 9 2024, 07:13 PM
mepstein   There are places to send a throttle body out, get ...   Apr 9 2024, 04:35 PM
Gatornapper   Thanks Ben - did not know that. The 50mm (from 45...   Apr 9 2024, 07:29 PM


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