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> Max Tire Width 4 Lug Fuchs?, To roll the wheel well lip or not?
GeorgeKopf
post Feb 7 2023, 09:15 AM
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My chassis is at the stage where I have to make a decision on whether or not to roll the wheel well lip. I will be running the 4 lug 2.0 Fuchs (15 x 5.5).

I searched the forums but couldn't find an answer to my exact question.

What is the widest tire I can run with and without rolling the wheel well lip?
Does it make any difference?

I am interested in maximizing traction but I'm not willing to go to flared fenders.

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George


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GeorgeKopf
post Feb 7 2023, 10:55 AM
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To provide a little more context.

My chassis is almost ready for paint. If I'm going to roll the wheel well lip, now is the time.

Am I correct in my belief that in order for the speedometer to be accurate the total tire diameter needs to be 25.5 inches? Saw this on Pelican.

205/60 = 4.8 inches on the sidewall + 15 = 24.6 inches.
205/65 = 25.4 inches
210/60 = 24.8 inches
210/65 = 25.65 inches

I'm assuming that there is no way a 210 tire will fit on a 914 without fender flares.

So I guess my question boils down to ....

If I roll the wheel well lip, can I put a 205/65, 210/60 or a 210/65 on the car?

Thanks.

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post Feb 7 2023, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(GeorgeKopf @ Feb 7 2023, 11:55 AM) *

To provide a little more context.

My chassis is almost ready for paint. If I'm going to roll the wheel well lip, now is the time.

Am I correct in my belief that in order for the speedometer to be accurate the total tire diameter needs to be 25.5 inches? Saw this on Pelican.

205/60 = 4.8 inches on the sidewall + 15 = 24.6 inches.
205/65 = 25.4 inches
210/60 = 24.8 inches
210/65 = 25.65 inches

I'm assuming that there is no way a 210 tire will fit on a 914 without fender flares.

So I guess my question boils down to ....

If I roll the wheel well lip, can I put a 205/65, 210/60 or a 210/65 on the car?

Thanks.

George


If you're at this stage of the project, you might as well roll the fenders if you're considering anything over 195/65/15 and if it's not a big expense.

The way the body was assembled really dictates what will fit on your car without rubbing.

If speedo accuracy is a concern, you can also have the speedo recalibrated to fit your new tires.

And most of all, JamesJ is right, threadwear rating is important. A 195 or 185 tire with 180 threadwear is better than a 205 with 600 or 700. Unless you use the car as a daily driver, any tire you'll buy will dry out before wearing out.
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post Feb 7 2023, 03:17 PM
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And most of all, JamesJ is right, threadwear rating is important. A 195 or 185 tire with 180 threadwear is better than a 205 with 600 or 700. Unless you use the car as a daily driver, any tire you'll buy will dry out before wearing out.

You have it backwards. A 195 or 185 is going to be the high mileage econo car tire size. I have seen 205 in the stickier <400. Something <200 is going to be a 205/50. 205/50-15 is common with track Miatas.
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post Feb 7 2023, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE(mihai914 @ Feb 7 2023, 10:58 AM) *


And most of all, JamesJ is right, threadwear rating is important. A 195 or 185 tire with 180 threadwear is better than a 205 with 600 or 700. Unless you use the car as a daily driver, any tire you'll buy will dry out before wearing out.

You have it backwards. A 195 or 185 is going to be the high mileage econo car tire size. I have seen 205 in the stickier <400. Something <200 is going to be a 205/50. 205/50-15 is common with track Miatas.


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GeorgeKopf   Max Tire Width 4 Lug Fuchs?   Feb 7 2023, 09:15 AM
parrish911   I run 205/50 15 and did not have to roll the rear ...   Feb 7 2023, 09:18 AM
NARP74   Might depend on your frame. Mine is a little off ...   Feb 7 2023, 09:34 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   on the 23 standard offset 205/60x15 but will need ...   Feb 7 2023, 09:43 AM
Root_Werks   Could also start to look "funny" if you ...   Feb 7 2023, 10:05 AM
rhodyguy   I found the 205s, and the ballooning from the tire...   Feb 7 2023, 10:09 AM
GeorgeKopf   To provide a little more context. My chassis is a...   Feb 7 2023, 10:55 AM
mihai914   To provide a little more context. My chassis is ...   Feb 7 2023, 12:58 PM
Chris914n6   And most of all, JamesJ is right, threadwear rat...   Feb 7 2023, 03:17 PM
914_teener   And most of all, JamesJ is right, threadwear ra...   Feb 7 2023, 03:24 PM
mihai914   [quote name='mihai914' post='3056239' date='Feb 7...   Feb 7 2023, 03:34 PM
JamesJ   And most of all, JamesJ is right, threadwear ra...   Feb 7 2023, 06:45 PM
Chris914n6   Respectfully, ahhhh, no. My bad. Those came out ...   Feb 7 2023, 07:41 PM
Jamie   To provide a little more context. My chassis is ...   Feb 7 2023, 03:13 PM
JamesJ   Myth: the wider the stickier. Look for a low tread...   Feb 7 2023, 11:34 AM
rhodyguy   On 5 1/2” wheels. I imagine disregarding this co...   Feb 7 2023, 12:21 PM
Chris914n6   You only need to roll the rear fender 1/2" or...   Feb 7 2023, 12:29 PM
rhodyguy   The use warnings are enough for me to forget the V...   Feb 7 2023, 05:56 PM
bkrantz   I put 195/65-15 on stock Fuchs four lug wheels. W...   Feb 7 2023, 09:17 PM
Dave_Darling   One reason why you don't find definitive answe...   Feb 8 2023, 09:16 PM
GeorgeKopf   Thank you everybody for the information and insigh...   Feb 11 2023, 11:17 AM


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