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> Dropped intake seat, Made a mess.
TrailerParkBoy
post Mar 13 2023, 09:54 AM
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Intake seat let go. Ended up resting at angle to valve (odd location, usually they sit flat if loose?) which ended up taking a chunk from top of piston and scuffing cam lobe from pressure created. Much work ahead of us this weekend :-(Attached ImageAttached Image


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post Mar 14 2023, 11:04 AM
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Looks to me like that valve seat did a dance in there and pitted the piston. I'm guessing that pieces of the head chipped off and also added to the pock mark party. I'm guessing the big dent was caused by the valve being held open and the piston hitting it.

Dropped valve seats are often caused by poorly executed valve jobs where the shop didn't take into account the expanding nature of an air cooled head and didn't fit the seat with enough interference. Or there was a crack or some other event that kicked the seat out of there.

If the other cylinders all look good maybe just replace that piston and head. Very unlikely that the rod bearing is damaged unless you can see that the rod got bent. Once you reassemble, check if that piston sits low at TDC because that could mean a bent rod.

I'm surprised the cam got damaged without bending the pushrod or bending other valvetrain parts. Check that too!

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TrailerParkBoy   Dropped intake seat   Mar 13 2023, 09:54 AM
Root_Werks   Oops! Yup, doesn't look good, probably di...   Mar 13 2023, 10:14 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   time for two new heads, these things are now 50 ye...   Mar 13 2023, 11:25 AM
r_towle   That looks wrong in a few ways. Valve,,, obvious T...   Mar 13 2023, 01:59 PM
brant   Looks like it could of been lean as mentioned Too...   Mar 13 2023, 02:54 PM
914sgofast2   The top of that piston looks really bad. Did you ...   Mar 13 2023, 03:42 PM
r_towle   It’s possible that detonation may have caused th...   Mar 13 2023, 04:08 PM
TrailerParkBoy   Thank you for the eye. Great questions. I’ll gra...   Mar 13 2023, 06:28 PM
r_towle   What budget do you have? I think AA makes new head...   Mar 13 2023, 06:37 PM
brant   I’m guessing it was not running right ?   Mar 13 2023, 07:04 PM
TrailerParkBoy   I’m guessing it was not running right ? Yes, ...   Mar 14 2023, 09:38 AM
Brett W   Be interesting to see if the rod bearings are beat...   Mar 13 2023, 08:30 PM
Superhawk996   The tops of the piston have all the hallmarks of ...   Mar 14 2023, 06:01 PM
gnomefabtech   Looks to me like that valve seat did a dance in th...   Mar 14 2023, 11:04 AM
gandalf_025   I had an intake valve seat drop in a Corvair Turbo...   Mar 14 2023, 11:15 AM
bludden   Happened to me a week and a half after I bought my...   Mar 14 2023, 06:20 PM
emerygt350   Again, reminds me of the importance of AFR and CHT...   Mar 15 2023, 06:57 AM
Superhawk996   Again, reminds me of the importance of AFR and CH...   Mar 15 2023, 08:35 AM
majkos1   engine original fuel injection or carb?   Mar 15 2023, 07:08 AM
technicalninja   Again, reminds me of the importance of AFR and C...   Mar 16 2023, 02:17 PM
rjames   Agree that a wideband sensor is important, especia...   Mar 16 2023, 03:38 PM
gnomefabtech   How do the other cylinders look? It's possibl...   Mar 16 2023, 10:08 PM
TrailerParkBoy   Pulled it apart and this is what we found, remembe...   Mar 20 2023, 10:17 AM
gnomefabtech   Dayum! That's a crazy failure.   Mar 20 2023, 07:18 PM
r_towle   Lean, detonation evidence on the other cylinder. W...   Mar 20 2023, 07:38 PM
Dave_Darling   That looks depressingly familiar. Could be caused...   Mar 20 2023, 10:05 PM


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