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> 1976 Is it a 49 state or Cali car?
gnomefabtech
post Mar 13 2023, 06:25 PM
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Car came from Nevada but I can't tell if it was originally a California car. It still has injection but doesn't have a cat or smog pump. Doesn't look like it ever had either but I'm wondering since I'm going to try and register it here in California. Thanks in advance!!

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post Mar 18 2023, 09:27 PM
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i've been thinking about this problem for the sake of alleviating @JORACER#40 misery.

it may or may not help him.
its always very difficult dealing with bureaucrats.
(if its any comfort its getting worse down here in north antarctica too, our public service is being populated by immigrants of the subcontinent post colonial diaspora who inherited and perfected one thing left behind by the british - the fully developed final flowering of bureaucracy. they are masters of it. usually they employ the finally crafted methods they have devised to slam the door on you with their goggledegook. but sometimes when you give them the right question it sets them off in very helpful ways. not sure how your bureacracy is run and by whom. ).

its clear that something is going on in relation to the clean air act of 1970 and the strange inclusion in the CARB executive order for 1976 914s.



take the extract from the clean air act.
i've at least found that for you.
the bit i have highlighted in green is of importance too.

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take the extract from the 1976 executive orders for 76 914.

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and ask them the question innocently.
"are they sure they are correct in defining your 76 914 as a 76MY car,
because you want these two clauses explained to you which seem to indicate that it was never a 1976 car as defined by the clean air act".

you never know. keep asking the question up the line if you can.
with these two bits of information.

it may well be that the 914 2.0 for 1976 is the only car that was in this position and was able to be approved.

porsche/audi north america would have had to make a case to CARB and the USEPA that proved they were not seeking to circumvent the effective date for a standard. ie they were not producing a model year car in two halves. one of a lower standard up to dec 31 1975 and then one of the higher standard after that date, but rather they were only making a car up to that date. if so the clean air act makes it clear, it is to be regarded as a 75 model year car if the USEPA (at minimum) agrees to it. and it looks like CARB say that too. if they limit approval to DEC 31 1975 that means they must have agreed that it is to be regarded as a 75 model year car. its a pity they don't state it explicitely,
but thats typical of these kinds of bureaucratic approvals.

if you are patient you might open a door here.
other 76 2.0 owners in california if they read this might feel inclined to join you in these inquiries.

if it was me i would write the letters and set the chain in motion.

its at least a good question for a good congressman/woman.
if there is such a thing in california if you know what i mean.
ie one not hostile to aged polluting vehicles of merely historic amusement.

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gnomefabtech   1976 Is it a 49 state or Cali car?   Mar 13 2023, 06:25 PM
JeffBowlsby   All 75s and 76s should have a smog pump and air in...   Mar 13 2023, 06:43 PM
rgalla9146   A 1976 California car will have a EGR lamp on the ...   Mar 13 2023, 07:24 PM
Type 47   A 1976 California car will have a EGR lamp on the...   Mar 14 2023, 06:10 PM
gnomefabtech   Thanks. I'll be able to look at the car more ...   Mar 13 2023, 08:27 PM
L-Jet914   You can also check the VECI label (vehicle emissio...   Mar 13 2023, 08:29 PM
Chris914n6   Writing myself a note to look at my vin sticker fo...   Mar 14 2023, 08:34 PM
wonkipop   is that true that only california cars had cats in...   Mar 14 2023, 08:50 PM
JeffBowlsby   All 75-76 CA-model 914s required cats. https://bo...   Mar 14 2023, 09:09 PM
wonkipop   All 75-76 CA-model 914s required cats. https://b...   Mar 14 2023, 10:02 PM
JeffBowlsby   Got proof or is that speculation? We’ve heard th...   Mar 14 2023, 10:18 PM
wonkipop   Got proof or is that speculation? We’ve heard t...   Mar 15 2023, 12:29 AM
type47fan   Got proof or is that speculation? We’ve heard t...   Mar 15 2023, 12:53 AM
wonkipop   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Mar 15 2023, 02:20 PM
wonkipop   righteo mr. b @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/...   Mar 15 2023, 04:59 PM
JeffBowlsby   Awesome man. That is a really thorough explanatio...   Mar 15 2023, 07:27 PM
wonkipop   Awesome man. That is a really thorough explanati...   Mar 15 2023, 08:01 PM
wonkipop   Awesome man. That is a really thorough explanati...   Mar 15 2023, 08:15 PM
JeffBowlsby   There must be some other CA law here that overlaps...   Mar 15 2023, 08:58 PM
wonkipop   There must be some other CA law here that overlap...   Mar 15 2023, 09:09 PM
JORACER#40   If you live in CA DO NOT purchase a 76 914 I am go...   Mar 15 2023, 09:21 PM
wonkipop   If you live in CA DO NOT purchase a 76 914 I am g...   Mar 15 2023, 10:07 PM
gnomefabtech   Thanks for all the feedback and information! ...   Mar 15 2023, 09:27 PM
wonkipop   @JeffBowlsby and others unfortunate to own 76 in...   Mar 16 2023, 06:03 PM
gnomefabtech   If you live in CA DO NOT purchase a 76 914 I am g...   Mar 16 2023, 07:24 PM
JORACER#40   [quote name='JORACER#40' post='3065410' date='Mar...   Mar 16 2023, 08:29 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='JORACER#40' post='3065410' date='Ma...   Mar 18 2023, 06:28 PM
gnomefabtech   Well I finally got the car in my possession and it...   Mar 18 2023, 07:28 PM
wonkipop   Well I finally got the car in my possession and i...   Mar 18 2023, 07:46 PM
wonkipop   i'm not sure mr b. @JeffBowlsby has one of t...   Mar 18 2023, 07:51 PM
wonkipop   re vin stickers and manufacturer's plates. @...   Mar 18 2023, 08:07 PM
JeffBowlsby   The 76 plate omission is known but you highlighted...   Mar 18 2023, 08:57 PM
wonkipop   The 76 plate omission is known but you highlighte...   Mar 18 2023, 09:52 PM
L-Jet914   @wonkipop I see you figured out how to navigate t...   Mar 18 2023, 09:00 PM
wonkipop   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Mar 18 2023, 09:28 PM
wonkipop   i've been thinking about this problem for the ...   Mar 18 2023, 09:27 PM
wonkipop   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Mar 19 2023, 02:23 PM
wonkipop   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Mar 19 2023, 03:07 PM
JORACER#40   With 914 World I have access to a lot of help and ...   Mar 19 2023, 08:29 PM
Dave_Darling   A bit of recent-ish California smog history: Abou...   Mar 19 2023, 08:12 PM
wonkipop   A bit of recent-ish California smog history: Abo...   Mar 20 2023, 03:08 AM
technicalninja   Wow! Wonki is Sherlock Holmes... I can give a...   Mar 19 2023, 09:00 PM
wonkipop   Wow! Wonki is Sherlock Holmes... I can give ...   Mar 20 2023, 03:27 AM
Chris914n6   The air pump was utilized to add additional oxyge...   Mar 23 2023, 04:38 PM
Dave_Darling   The air pump was added to trucks before cats were ...   Mar 24 2023, 02:40 AM
wonkipop   The air pump was added to trucks before cats were...   Mar 24 2023, 12:54 PM
Chris914n6   68 912 is pre smog mate! Sniffer test starte...   Mar 24 2023, 01:55 PM
wonkipop   68 912 is pre smog mate! Sniffer test start...   Mar 24 2023, 05:59 PM
Dave_Darling   68 912 is pre smog mate! Nope, not at the t...   Mar 25 2023, 03:32 PM
wonkipop   68 912 is pre smog mate! Nope, not at the ...   Mar 25 2023, 04:07 PM
L-Jet914   The secondary air injection pump was added to help...   Mar 19 2023, 09:24 PM
wonkipop   The secondary air injection pump was added to hel...   Mar 20 2023, 03:20 AM
cgnj   This is my anecdotal evidence regarding non-cat MY...   Mar 20 2023, 09:36 AM
technicalninja   All car still have the function of the secondary a...   Mar 20 2023, 09:38 AM
L-Jet914   All car still have the function of the secondary ...   Mar 21 2023, 07:42 PM
wonkipop   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Mar 22 2023, 05:11 PM
type47fan   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Mar 23 2023, 12:39 PM
gnomefabtech   Good tip. Thanks   Mar 22 2023, 09:17 PM
914werke   Oh but there is more.... There is a specific airbo...   Mar 23 2023, 04:25 PM
wonkipop   Oh but there is more.... There is a specific airb...   Mar 24 2023, 02:27 AM


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