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mlindner
post May 15 2023, 07:47 AM
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Doug, what is your location in WI, I'm on Lake Wisconsin north of Madison. Mark
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post May 16 2023, 02:02 PM
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I called my In heart (leadless) pacemaker manufacture today to ck on a few things after I was at Cedars Sinai hospital for my yearly pacemaker Ck up. As far as the ignition source goes, they say 12 inches away is fine. I am inclosing some info from them Stay healthy my friends.

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Dear Mr. Burton,
Thank you for contacting Medtronic Patient Services. If you do choose to weld after consulting with your physician, follow these welding safety precautions to minimize the risk of interfering with your implanted heart device:
• Limit welding to currents less than 160 amps
• Work in a dry area with dry gloves and shoes.
• Maintain a 2-foot (60 centimeter) distance between the welding arc and heart device.
• Keep the welding cables close together and as far away as possible from the patient’s heart device.
• Place the welding unit approximately 5 feet from the work area.
• Connect the ground clamp to the metal as close to the point of welding as possible.
• Arrange the work so the handle and rod will not contact the metal being welded if they are accidentally dropped.
• Wait several seconds between attempts when having difficulty starting a weld.
• Work in an area that offers firm footing and plenty of room for movement Work with an informed person who understands these suggestions.
• Immediately stop welding and step away from the area if the patient start feeling lightheaded or dizzy or if the patient believes their implantable defibrillator has delivered a shock
Welding above 160 amps is not recommended, maintain at least 5 feet from the welding area and components for welders up to 400 amps.
NOTE: There is no apron or vest that will effectively shield the Medtronic heart devices from the electromagnetic fields generated by the welding equipment.
Welding precaution guidelines support the following types of welding machines:
• EDM - Electromagnetic Discharge Machine
• GMAW - Gas Metal Arc Welding types:
• MIG - Metal Inert Gas welding
• MAG - Metal Active Gas welding
• SMAW or MMA - Shielded Metal Arc Welding or Stick Welding or Manual Metal Arc welding
• GTAW or TIG – Gas Tungsten Arc
• Welding or Tungsten Inert Gas
• Helium arc
• Plasma cutters
• Gouging
• Alternating Current (AC) or Direct Current (DC)
To learn more about Medtronic implanted heart devices, please reference the websites below. You may also share the following links with family and friends:
• medtronic.com: Learn more about Medtronic products
• medtronic.com/patient-services/cardiac-emc-guide/index.htm: Understand electromagnetic field
Attached File  EMC_Guide.pdf ( 2.43mb ) Number of downloads: 27
Attached File  EMC_Worksite_Patient_Standard_Letter_v1.2.pdf ( 102.61k ) Number of downloads: 28
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post May 16 2023, 04:58 PM
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I live in McFarland. Thanks for the info about welding. I have a dual lead Medtronic. Things are looking more positive for life with a pacemaker.
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post May 18 2023, 01:07 PM
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because this issue is what I do daily...and I am most likely going to get one in the future....

I am very concerned about this aspect.
There are things I can avoid...EMF things.
This bit will become harder to avoid as things become more connected.
An example article, but the issue is very real, and very scary.

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIR...0agency%20noted.

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post May 20 2023, 11:55 AM
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When friends offer condolences about my heart problems, I tell them everyone just has to play the cards they are dealt, but when I read this article, I sometime feel mine are too often aces and 8's. Scary stuff.
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post May 20 2023, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ May 18 2023, 03:07 PM) *

This bit will become harder to avoid as things become more connected.
An example article, but the issue is very real, and very scary.

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIR...0agency%20noted.

Logan’s Run
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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ May 20 2023, 02:44 PM) *

QUOTE(r_towle @ May 18 2023, 03:07 PM) *

This bit will become harder to avoid as things become more connected.
An example article, but the issue is very real, and very scary.

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIR...0agency%20noted.

Logan’s Run

So,
I will be watching your heart rate and I will Brick your car and call an ambulance.

Lol
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