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emerygt350 |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,399 Joined: 20-July 21 From: Upstate, NY Member No.: 25,740 Region Association: North East States ![]() |
Had these installed today. Wow. My brakes were not bad before but what a difference. Sponginess is all gone, confidence inspiring short stops. Locks them up with little effort (compared to before). Didn't touch anything else. And they are not 50 years old!
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Had these installed today. Wow. My brakes were not bad before but what a difference. Sponginess is all gone, confidence inspiring short stops. Locks them up with little effort (compared to before). Didn't touch anything else. And they are not 50 years old! Stopping is always good, were the previous flex lines original? |
emerygt350 |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,399 Joined: 20-July 21 From: Upstate, NY Member No.: 25,740 Region Association: North East States ![]() |
Yep.. the original owner had replacements in the box that came with the car... Obviously never installed....
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Village Idiot ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,001 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest ![]() ![]() |
Old brake lines can expand quite a bit. Even just new stock rubber lines can make a big difference.
You can never have too much braking power! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 783 Joined: 8-February 13 From: NC Member No.: 15,499 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() ![]() |
I got my lines on a group buy here and a 19mm master from 914 rubber group buy too.... With the Poterfield pads it works GREAT
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,039 Joined: 18-March 09 From: Salem, NJ Member No.: 10,179 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
I Replaced mine with Goodridge a few years back
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Get that VIN ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,882 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
OK; So how long do the rubber lines last until they need replacing. More than 5 years ? I’m
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914 Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,271 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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emerygt350 |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,399 Joined: 20-July 21 From: Upstate, NY Member No.: 25,740 Region Association: North East States ![]() |
Possibly, my Porsche guy said that the difference between rubber and braided is noticable so I just went for the braided.
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emerygt350 |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,399 Joined: 20-July 21 From: Upstate, NY Member No.: 25,740 Region Association: North East States ![]() |
If anyone wants some rubber lines... I have an extra set (not the ones off the car).
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Root_Werks |
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Village Idiot ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,001 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest ![]() ![]() |
OK; So how long do the rubber lines last until they need replacing. More than 5 years ? I’m over 10 years I'd start thinking about replacing them....or if you don't know when they were last replaced....replace them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Or if you can see visible cracking, browning of the rubber etc. |
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Get that VIN ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,882 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Hmmm I. Have a new set from PMB, just don’t look forward to the mess taking the old ones off might make.
And should all 4 be removed and replaced at the same time ? |
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The rubber man ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 12,303 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
I'd say yes. Otherwise, you may be asking for the older ones to pop. The rubber flexes, the stainless, not as much. I'd also argue that you would not get as much benefit in that the old rubber would still flex.
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FlacaProductions |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,282 Joined: 24-November 17 From: LA Member No.: 21,628 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
What's the procedure for replacing - any tips to reduce how much of a mess this makes?
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emerygt350 |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,399 Joined: 20-July 21 From: Upstate, NY Member No.: 25,740 Region Association: North East States ![]() |
I looked at everything I could find on here and YouTube. Ian doesn't have anything good on this yet as far as I could tell. When I put the PMB rear calipers on I looked real hard at where the clips and stuff were for the rubber hoses. Sprayed all the joints with penetrating fluid, called my Porsche guy and dropped it off at the shop. I normally do all my own stuff but there are just some jobs that a hoist and experience is worth paying for.
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VaccaRabite |
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En Garde! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 13,167 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() |
What's the procedure for replacing - any tips to reduce how much of a mess this makes? I'm going to be doing this soon. I also have a set of Erics new SS lines to put in. But I'm waiting to do it till I can replace to rotors and do a full brake service. In general, with the car up in the air, and the wheels off, you take the soft lines off one corner at a time, replacing them as quickly as you can. Brake fluid is going to drip and you want to minimize that. Have things prepped and ready to go ahead of time. Put some penetrating fluid on all the clips and connections so they pull out easier. When done you are obviously going to need to bleed the brakes. I'd suggest doing a complete flush. And (DWD be damned!) while you are in there - brace up your brake master cylinder so it does not flex the sheet metal its attached to. Again, prep is the key here. Get under the car and look and see what needs doing. the clips aren't impossible to remove, but they often get a little corrosion and get stuck. I've used a hammer and drift to get them started moving, and a pair of vice grips to remove them once they budge. If you have never replaced your hardlines... Oof. You may be in for an ordeal. If you have replaced hardlines then they should be in pretty good condition, just go slow and don't strip them out. Penetrating fluid is your friend! Its not hard, just tedious and could be messy. Zach |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,399 Joined: 20-July 21 From: Upstate, NY Member No.: 25,740 Region Association: North East States ![]() |
A little thing I saw some guys do to reduce drips is put cling wrap under your mc cap. That will stop the fluid from pouring out. It will still drip but not as fast.
Just don't forget to remove it. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,282 Joined: 24-November 17 From: LA Member No.: 21,628 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Good tips - and I've seen the cling-wrap trick mentioned elsewhere, too.
I'm going to do a flush and new pads next - and will check the soft lines before diving in and do those if needed as well. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,058 Joined: 21-February 06 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 5,610 ![]() |
Just remember, braided lines fail from the inside. They are an improvement, but the require more vigilance than rubber lines, which you can see bulging before they fail.
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