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Rare :Original unrestored 914, How many out there ? |
Shivers |
Jun 18 2023, 08:51 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2,408 Joined: 19-October 20 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 24,781 Region Association: Southern California |
Mine. Original, original owner, unrestored. 120k miles. Last Sunday won 1st place at regional PCA concours event. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Beautiful car. I wonder how rare it is to have an appearance group car with factory painted bumpers. |
StarBear |
Jun 18 2023, 09:55 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,902 Joined: 2-September 09 From: NJ Member No.: 10,753 Region Association: North East States |
Mine. Original, original owner, unrestored. 120k miles. Last Sunday won 1st place at regional PCA concours event. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Beautiful car. I wonder how rare it is to have an appearance group car with factory painted bumpers. I think (?) my black Appearance Group bumpers were for 1.8L cars, rather than the chromed ones. Have never been sure about that. Maybe an early 74 thing as VW still using 73 parts when mine was built; I have 73 gas tank and 73 seat cushions (stitched, not hot sealed) seams. Instead of “original”, maybe @wonkipop term “mostly unmolested” is most accurate. SS heat exchangers, muffler, and fuel lines; fuel pump up front; third brake light; and Ford starter solenoid. LR quarter panel replaced/painted about 40 years ago. |
Brett W |
Jun 18 2023, 10:16 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,856 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None |
I am surprised how well the paint has held up on these original cars. Figured the paint if nothing else would have gone flat or checked. It was never the best quality materials back then. At least it had the good chemicals, LOL.
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Shivers |
Jun 18 2023, 10:34 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2,408 Joined: 19-October 20 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 24,781 Region Association: Southern California |
I am surprised how well the paint has held up on these original cars. Figured the paint if nothing else would have gone flat or checked. It was never the best quality materials back then. At least it had the good chemicals, LOL. Mine was a 10 year old used car when I got it. It was Saturn yellow. I too am amazed. |
Racer |
Jun 18 2023, 10:55 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 787 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Northern Virginia Member No.: 1,073 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Original, unrestored, one family owned 1970 914/6 here.
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StarBear |
Jun 18 2023, 02:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,902 Joined: 2-September 09 From: NJ Member No.: 10,753 Region Association: North East States |
I am surprised how well the paint has held up on these original cars. Figured the paint if nothing else would have gone flat or checked. It was never the best quality materials back then. At least it had the good chemicals, LOL. The old laquers were quite durable and reasonably thick. Just a bit of light compounding, polishing and wax, with a winter car cover, and they hold up rather well. Got my thicknesses checked last year - still good! |
wonkipop |
Jun 18 2023, 04:21 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,350 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
I am surprised how well the paint has held up on these original cars. Figured the paint if nothing else would have gone flat or checked. It was never the best quality materials back then. At least it had the good chemicals, LOL. mines being garaged almost all its life. 1st owner and me. definitely faded. inners are still factory fresh but phoenix red has lost a bit of intensity externally. if it had spent any time getting significant UV exposure it would be long gone flat and powdery. esp down here. uv is off the scale. as it is the paint is on the edge of its service life. it really can't do any hard weather at this point. its become about preservation at this point. not my intention 34 years ago. just has turned out that way - fate. an unmolested car isn't about coveting something that few others have, its a useful mine of information for other guys restoring cars. which is the point of this great website. info. factory original was pretty sloppy in a lot of places on the car. not even up to VW standards of quality, let alone porsche. karmann really knocked them out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) the restored cars are much much better quality than the originals. everyone here restoring cars is definitely improving on the originals. every time i open the front trunk i notice what a great job the karmann painters didn't do! an interesting unoriginal mod i had no say in. still remember the totalitarian regime enforcer dictating where this had to be rivetted on - like it or not. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (with some unfaded phoenix red.) other non factory items you just got to preserve, esp when the car has been transported literally to the exact opposite side of the world. if i could look right through the planet i would staring at the foundations of chicago. a place i really liked. ------ i got nothing on my mechanic. this is a three owner car. its been in his family since it was new. hand me down. has been restored once. nothing can last forever. |
Shivers |
Jun 18 2023, 04:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2,408 Joined: 19-October 20 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 24,781 Region Association: Southern California |
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wonkipop |
Jun 18 2023, 05:32 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,350 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
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wonkipop |
Jun 18 2023, 05:43 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,350 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
I am surprised how well the paint has held up on these original cars. Figured the paint if nothing else would have gone flat or checked. It was never the best quality materials back then. At least it had the good chemicals, LOL. Mine was a 10 year old used car when I got it. It was Saturn yellow. I too am amazed. you can see how much mine has faded in 30+ years. definitely gone phoenix orange now rather than phoenix red. (thats keeping it out of the harsh aus sun for most of time too - still slowly loses its pigment). has had a good claybar clean which brought it back a bit from where it was when i first pulled it out of storage and recommissioned. i think if it sat in the sun outside at this point it would powder in less than 6 months. |
dcheek |
Jun 19 2023, 12:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 691 Joined: 30-May 06 From: Westfield, New Jersey Member No.: 6,103 |
My 1976 2.0
Original owner purchased December 1975 26,000 original miles Won 1st place in my class at the 2022 Porsche Parade |
930cabman |
Jun 19 2023, 01:37 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,109 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
My 1975 Cali car had been stored outdoors for many years and quite a bit of the original Palma Green was faded off with light gray primer showing. I'm no expert, but from what I can tell the several 914's I have exhibit a thin application of paint.
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StarBear |
Jun 19 2023, 03:30 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,902 Joined: 2-September 09 From: NJ Member No.: 10,753 Region Association: North East States |
My 1976 2.0 Original owner purchased December 1975 26,000 original miles Won 1st place in my class at the 2022 Porsche Parade Yep! Clearly the best of the best, Dave. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) |
burton73 |
Jun 19 2023, 08:28 PM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,534 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=101921
Sahara Beige Steve smg914 The cleanest 914 I have seen in a posting. No one has mentioned Steve's Sahara Beige “A large crowd has gathered and they have been patiently waiting for the story behind the infamous Sahara Beige '73 2 liter. New photos and some history of the car to follow between now and Christmas.” This is a few years ago. Bob B |
wonkipop |
Jun 20 2023, 04:02 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,350 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
My 1976 2.0 Original owner purchased December 1975 26,000 original miles Won 1st place in my class at the 2022 Porsche Parade very nice mate. very glad a few folks have em stashed away in that condition. good on ya. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
wonkipop |
Jun 20 2023, 04:26 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,350 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=101921 Sahara Beige Steve smg914 The cleanest 914 I have seen in a posting. No one has mentioned Steve's Sahara Beige “A large crowd has gathered and they have been patiently waiting for the story behind the infamous Sahara Beige '73 2 liter. New photos and some history of the car to follow between now and Christmas.” This is a few years ago. Bob B yep that one is pretty damn good. i read up the thread on it. thats when i discovered mine has the same inspection stickers that ones got on it. but i was oblivious to them for many years. they are kind of hidden where you don't look. i even found a paper sticker on the trans on mine when i had to drop it 3 or 4 years ago to do the clutch. everything is great about that car except the beige. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) just kidding. its so seventies in the way everyone forgets. it was not all about loud colors. its the kind of hippy taste. joni mitchell not deep purple. time capsule and real sweet. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) no one would think to paint a car beige now. and thats what is ace about it. its outside time. eventually it happens. preserved they stay outside time and customization/updating, the ravages of the wars of taste etc and they just are there. like stars in the sky. or ayers rock (uluru). they just are. and because of that they can take you back. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) |
burton73 |
Jun 20 2023, 09:09 PM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,534 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...c=58444&hl=
There is Pat Garvey’s car. Pat is an old time member for people that do not know him. He was on a lot in my earlier years . I joined in 2007 Take a look as this is a very clean 914 Bob B |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Jun 21 2023, 08:32 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,875 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
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DRPHIL914 |
Jun 21 2023, 08:43 AM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,767 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
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burton73 |
Jun 21 2023, 10:19 AM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,534 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
we have one here, just prepping it for heavy concours competition, except for the jc whitney wheels installed after the car was purchased new, it it TOTALLY original so doc, what wheels will go on this car for returning to OEM? So, ----George Hussey,---- will the green car get dinged because the antenna is on the wrong side as you pointed out? Best Bob B (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) |
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