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> Car never ran better - THEN!, Seems when hot there is no low end power
ctc911ctc
post Jun 25 2023, 04:30 PM
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'74 2.0 - 25K miles

It has been a very long journey. I, with my 17yr old son who is now 21, rebuilt nearly every system including the Engine and Transmission (a nod to Dr. Evil !! ). My son and I have learned a great deal, however, this one has me stumped.

The car runs terrific and is strong, smooth and a joy to drive, today I took it around the Lakes here in Arlington MA and at the end of the drive there is a hill with a red light - I caught the red. I waited as the button pushers jaywalked (after they hit the button) and then I waited some more with the crosswalk signs blinking and no one crossing.....sigh

OK, there is the green and I ease out the clutch and apply a little gas AND nothing...... nearly idling. I then bury the gas and the car stalls.......and since this is New England everyone starts beeping and yelling - so I get the flashers on and people go around me.

I wait another light cycle and get the cars started by pumping the gas and keeping it running over 1500, once it started moving it ran fine. It is almost
as if there was zero power below 1500, though when the car was rolling everything worked as you would expect. When the car is cold the low power is as normal as a 90HP engine can be. The temp of the car is about 2/3rds deflection of the center console temp gauge.

I am thinking all sorts of complicated thoughts.......head temp sensor is sending weird signals to the Bosch controller OR when super hot the vacuum system starts leaking, etc.

So, I thought I would start here - any ideas teeners???? Keep me sane and guide me to the light!


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ctc911ctc   Car never ran better - THEN!   Jun 25 2023, 04:30 PM
emerygt350   Do you still have the original distributor?   Jun 25 2023, 05:55 PM
ctc911ctc   Yes, I took it apart and cleaned it.....twice...   Jun 25 2023, 06:35 PM
r_towle   Advance plates sticking in distributor Fuel pump n...   Jun 25 2023, 06:09 PM
ctc911ctc   I took the plates out, cleaned and rebuilt the ent...   Jun 25 2023, 06:33 PM
r_towle   What location did you put the fuel pump? If it’s...   Jun 25 2023, 06:13 PM
ctc911ctc   Vapor Lock did not occur to me - the pump is in th...   Jun 25 2023, 06:30 PM
76-914   Vapor Lock did not occur to me - the pump is in t...   Jun 26 2023, 07:52 AM
burton73   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=2...   Jun 25 2023, 06:23 PM
SirAndy   Car never ran better Back in my dirt bike racing d...   Jun 25 2023, 06:24 PM
ctc911ctc   Ain't it the way!   Jun 25 2023, 06:27 PM
r_towle   Well, fuel and ignition Can you reproduce the prob...   Jun 25 2023, 07:14 PM
ctc911ctc   Yes, I know how to reproduce - will adjust/check, ...   Jun 25 2023, 07:25 PM
r_towle   If you need anything, give me a ring. Rich   Jun 25 2023, 09:04 PM
rjames   Unlikely it’s your issue, but one summer my car ...   Jun 25 2023, 10:41 PM
emerygt350   Can't say enough about the 123dizzy. However ...   Jun 26 2023, 03:43 AM
Cairo94507   On a hill and stopped for a long time... how much ...   Jun 26 2023, 06:30 AM
ctc911ctc   Yes, my mind did go there - the tank was completel...   Jun 26 2023, 09:18 AM
emerygt350   That gets worse with load/rpm. This apparently wo...   Jun 26 2023, 03:21 PM
ctc911ctc   Conscious that makes Sens-ous is that the fuel pum...   Jun 27 2023, 01:13 PM
emerygt350   That is a big pia job that may be unnecessary.   Jun 27 2023, 01:33 PM
ctc911ctc   UPDATE Got under the car today - first I started ...   Jul 1 2023, 03:30 PM
emerygt350   You are fine there. Not an original position or p...   Jul 1 2023, 09:46 PM
ctc911ctc   Same day I had the trouble with the 914, my neighb...   Jul 2 2023, 08:24 AM
emerygt350   When these vapor lock, they go nowhere, the engine...   Jul 2 2023, 09:12 AM
r_towle   That is an aftermarket 2 port pump for a 75 While...   Jul 2 2023, 09:27 AM
ctc911ctc   Rich, Good to exchange notes with you today, I r...   Jul 2 2023, 04:04 PM
r_towle   I think it’s an easy fix. Get some new hoses. Fl...   Jul 2 2023, 09:28 AM
914werke   Notice that no air deflector flaps present .... do...   Jul 2 2023, 11:14 AM
ctc911ctc   Good catch, removed for the work - will replace - ...   Jul 2 2023, 03:57 PM
r_towle   Look for a recent thread by me on the fittings, et...   Jul 2 2023, 04:39 PM
Geezer914   Why would you put the filter after the pump? I wo...   Jul 3 2023, 06:05 AM
r_towle   I agree, BUT… Oem the order is tank (sock or in...   Jul 3 2023, 06:43 AM
Geezer914   I installed a Delphi pump from Rock Auto. My 914 ...   Jul 3 2023, 09:05 AM
r_towle   Location location. The OP may have had issues with...   Jul 3 2023, 09:11 AM
ctc911ctc   *****UPDATE***** I have decided, after reading ot...   Jul 5 2023, 09:53 AM
r_towle   *****UPDATE***** I have decided, after reading o...   Jul 5 2023, 05:24 PM
Jamie   *****UPDATE***** I have decided, after reading o...   Jul 6 2023, 01:27 PM
SirAndy   ... I have decided, after reading other threads on...   Jul 6 2023, 07:19 PM
ctc911ctc   Here is what the fuel lines looked like - car was ...   Jul 16 2023, 05:08 PM
Geezer914   Move the pump under the steering rack, so all you ...   Jul 5 2023, 11:01 AM
ctc911ctc   That’s the way plan! Still need 2 180 degree...   Jul 5 2023, 05:20 PM
r_towle   Bent fuel hose….maybe use the pieces created to ...   Jul 5 2023, 05:27 PM
914_teener   So assumptions.....starts with ass... The D-jet ...   Jul 6 2023, 11:35 AM
emerygt350   I don't suggest wrapping it, just create a bar...   Jul 6 2023, 11:39 AM
914_teener   I don't suggest wrapping it, just create a ba...   Jul 6 2023, 11:48 AM
emerygt350   I don't suggest wrapping it, just create a b...   Jul 6 2023, 01:44 PM
914_teener   [quote name='914_teener' post='3087745' date='Jul...   Jul 6 2023, 04:19 PM
ctc911ctc   **********UPDATE********** First, big thanks to R...   Jul 16 2023, 05:34 PM
r_towle   Yummy fuel lines. Filter, summit racing   Jul 16 2023, 05:37 PM
ctc911ctc   *********UPDATE*********** Turns out to be Dwell ...   Jul 29 2023, 07:50 PM
StarBear   Yay! We love happily ever afters. Great job...   Jul 30 2023, 06:19 AM
ctc911ctc   ************UPDATE********** ************Number 2*...   Aug 3 2023, 05:53 PM


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