Contracted 914 fever— is this the car to cure it?, What do you think of this ‘73 914 2.0 on Bat— pass or play? |
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Contracted 914 fever— is this the car to cure it?, What do you think of this ‘73 914 2.0 on Bat— pass or play? |
trylon |
Aug 9 2023, 11:06 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 9-August 23 From: Connecticut Member No.: 27,514 Region Association: North East States |
New to the forum and the car. Was pointed to it by an aficionado on The Samba— I have a ‘59 Karmann Ghia. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=723793
He suggested that the people on this forum were the brain trust for all things 914 and that I should vet one here that has caught my eye on BAT: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-porsche-914-113/ Any insight would be appreciated! |
Bullethead |
Aug 9 2023, 11:24 AM
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Oil Cooled heart Group: Members Posts: 897 Joined: 24-June 10 From: South Florida Member No.: 11,875 Region Association: South East States |
New to the forum and the car. Was pointed to it by an aficionado on The Samba— I have a ‘59 Karmann Ghia. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=723793 He suggested that the people on this forum where the brain trust for all things 914 and that I should vet one here that has caught my eye on BAT: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-porsche-914-113/ Any insight would be appreciated! Nice looking car... there's plenty of time to put eyes on it by arranging a PPI. And congrats on your lowlight, that is a beautiful example. Good infection! I see you took the same approach with that purchase. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) Owned by a member here: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act...mp;viewid=21814 |
jdamiano |
Aug 9 2023, 01:04 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 335 Joined: 18-March 18 From: Jacksonville Member No.: 21,981 Region Association: South East States |
Great pictures. Show the good and the bad. Overall it looks like a great car. Seats, wheels and muffler not original but otherwise looks like an honest original example of one of the most desirable year and trim cars. Anything under 30k would be a bargain and 40k would not be a surprise. Someone here might know the car or be willing to check it out in person for you.
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Shivers |
Aug 9 2023, 01:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2,423 Joined: 19-October 20 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 24,781 Region Association: Southern California |
Looks like most everything is there. From the pictures It looks very nice. My pause was the license plate, but I am not seeing rusticles hanging down. They are one ton of fun...Hope you join us.
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trylon |
Aug 9 2023, 02:02 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 9-August 23 From: Connecticut Member No.: 27,514 Region Association: North East States |
New to the forum and the car. Was pointed to it by an aficionado on The Samba— I have a ‘59 Karmann Ghia. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=723793 He suggested that the people on this forum where the brain trust for all things 914 and that I should vet one here that has caught my eye on BAT: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-porsche-914-113/ Any insight would be appreciated! Nice looking car... there's plenty of time to put eyes on it by arranging a PPI. And congrats on your lowlight, that is a beautiful example. Good infection! I see you took the same approach with that purchase. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) Owned by a member here: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act...mp;viewid=21814 Haha, yes I took the same tack as it previously yielded such great fruit! Thanks for your response and kind words. Yes, I would be interested in hearing from anyone in the Scottsdale area who would be willing to look it over (for a fee of course). A couple of my knowledgeable friends believe it took a blow to the front end. I would be interested to know the ramifications of that impact. The seller is amenable to such an inspection and is even willing to put it up on a lift! |
Root_Werks |
Aug 9 2023, 02:03 PM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,337 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Looks like a nice 914 for sure. Would get a PPI on it if possible.
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trylon |
Aug 9 2023, 02:06 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 9-August 23 From: Connecticut Member No.: 27,514 Region Association: North East States |
Great pictures. Show the good and the bad. Overall it looks like a great car. Seats, wheels and muffler not original but otherwise looks like an honest original example of one of the most desirable year and trim cars. Anything under 30k would be a bargain and 40k would not be a surprise. Someone here might know the car or be willing to check it out in person for you. Thanks for your input. I am a novice in things 914 but not a total uninitiate. Had the use of my mother-in-laws when they were new! Attached thumbnail(s) |
trylon |
Aug 9 2023, 02:08 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 9-August 23 From: Connecticut Member No.: 27,514 Region Association: North East States |
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trylon |
Aug 9 2023, 02:09 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 9-August 23 From: Connecticut Member No.: 27,514 Region Association: North East States |
Looks like most everything is there. From the pictures It looks very nice. My pause was the license plate, but I am not seeing rusticles hanging down. They are one ton of fun...Hope you join us. What a welcoming post— I do hope to bid my way into this forum soon! |
930cabman |
Aug 9 2023, 02:10 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,144 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
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I was unable to see the Ghia, but I'm sure she's cool and yes, find a decent (solid) 914 and join the club. How do things look when you remove the rocker covers? That often tells a good tale |
trylon |
Aug 9 2023, 02:48 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 9-August 23 From: Connecticut Member No.: 27,514 Region Association: North East States |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) I was unable to see the Ghia, but I'm sure she's cool and yes, find a decent (solid) 914 and join the club. How do things look when you remove the rocker covers? That often tells a good tale Here’s a walkaround video of the ‘59 Ghia. I brought it back to 6 volts: Attached thumbnail(s) |
Craigers17 |
Aug 9 2023, 03:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 744 Joined: 5-August 17 From: Rome, GA Member No.: 21,317 Region Association: South East States |
.....maybe you don't need a 914.....you might just need more cowbell?
But I digress, in all seriousness....Welcome!....Nice Ghia!!! I agree with your assessment that the car has been hit in the front. The front of the hood doesn't quite sit right, and if you look at the pics in the 160 to 180 range, you will see several pics of the frunk where the semicircular sheet metal that surrounds the spare looks damaged. At the point where it joins the fender wells at the back of that semicircle, you can see where the welds just don't look right. You can also see some waves in those areas.....likely where it buckled, at least slightly when it was impacted. Just my 2 cents. Still alot to like with that particular car. Good luck! |
fasthonda |
Aug 9 2023, 05:05 PM
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914 Type R Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 10-January 04 From: Greenville, SC Member No.: 1,544 Region Association: None |
You will pay a premium on BAT. Plenty of nice cars offered for sale on this site for a lot less.
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trylon |
Aug 9 2023, 05:31 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 9-August 23 From: Connecticut Member No.: 27,514 Region Association: North East States |
.....maybe you don't need a 914.....you might just need more cowbell? But I digress, in all seriousness....Welcome!....Nice Ghia!!! I agree with your assessment that the car has been hit in the front. The front of the hood doesn't quite sit right, and if you look at the pics in the 160 to 180 range, you will see several pics of the frunk where the semicircular sheet metal that surrounds the spare looks damaged. At the point where it joins the fender wells at the back of that semicircle, you can see where the welds just don't look right. You can also see some waves in those areas.....likely where it buckled, at least slightly when it was impacted. Just my 2 cents. Still alot to like with that particular car. Good luck! I am wondering what more cowbell could possibly mean… Thanks for the kind words and information. So I gather that a bump in the front does not necessarily make this car a no go. Seems prudent to see what the ramifications of that hit were though before bidding. |
trylon |
Aug 9 2023, 05:32 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 9-August 23 From: Connecticut Member No.: 27,514 Region Association: North East States |
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Craigers17 |
Aug 9 2023, 05:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 744 Joined: 5-August 17 From: Rome, GA Member No.: 21,317 Region Association: South East States |
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mgarrison |
Aug 9 2023, 06:20 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 356 Joined: 14-February 20 From: Chandler, AZ Member No.: 23,922 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I'm in the East Valley (Chandler, AZ) not far from Scottsdale, but I'm not sure I can really add much value beyond what has already been pointed out. I've never driven/ridden in a 914, so no help with what it should feel like, etc.
I personally would focus on the front end hit/damage. It really doesn't look right, or like it was repaired well. Here's the same areas of my '74 for reference. You can clearly see it almost looks like a new "half-circle" support was welded in - the support that wraps around the spare tire. It really doesn't look correct to my eyes! I'd be asking a lot of questions about the damage & repair (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Just a thought - the PMS work on the car was just in July. Might be worth trying to call PMS and see what they can tell you about the car. Mr. Patrick took a good 20min to chat with me when I just purchased some fiberglass flares from them... |
trylon |
Aug 9 2023, 07:06 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 9-August 23 From: Connecticut Member No.: 27,514 Region Association: North East States |
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa9Zg6yGlQ4 Or the full version: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cVsQLlk-T0s Hahaha! I DO know that. Just never associated it to my fever. |
trylon |
Aug 9 2023, 07:09 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 9-August 23 From: Connecticut Member No.: 27,514 Region Association: North East States |
I'm in the East Valley (Chandler, AZ) not far from Scottsdale, but I'm not sure I can really add much value beyond what has already been pointed out. I've never driven/ridden in a 914, so no help with what it should feel like, etc. I personally would focus on the front end hit/damage. It really doesn't look right, or like it was repaired well. Here's the same areas of my '74 for reference. You can clearly see it almost looks like a new "half-circle" support was welded in - the support that wraps around the spare tire. It really doesn't look correct to my eyes! I'd be asking a lot of questions about the damage & repair (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Just a thought - the PMS work on the car was just in July. Might be worth trying to call PMS and see what they can tell you about the car. Mr. Patrick took a good 20min to chat with me when I just purchased some fiberglass flares from them... Thanks for taking the time to reply— very helpful. I do see how it should look. Guess I am hoping that it is price damper and not a deal breaker. |
Racer |
Aug 10 2023, 06:41 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 787 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Northern Virginia Member No.: 1,073 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
5 bolt hubs achieved by drilling out the standard 4-bolt hubs, vs a true swap to 911 front end. Related, you will see the spare mounted in the front trunk is a 4-bolt wheel.. so it wont fit if you get a flat. you will need another 5-bolt wheel (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
And yes, looks like some front end damage at one point. I was wondering why the front trunk alignment with the bumper seemed a tad off. Pretty green paint. Photographs well.. There are worse places to start. |
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