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Sportomatic transmission, Has anyone seen one? |
sarivers2001 |
Aug 24 2023, 07:14 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 16-August 23 From: California Member No.: 27,527 Region Association: Northern California |
I just read that a very small number of 914s were fitted with an optional Sportomatic semi-automatic transmission.
Has anyone ever seen one? Pictures? Thanks! |
Dave_Darling |
Aug 24 2023, 07:33 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,990 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
I've seen several 914-6 Sportos. (I believe that 25 of them were made, not counting prototypes.) Never seen a four-cylinder one, and I'm not at all convinced that there was ever one made in series production.
--DD |
burton73 |
Aug 24 2023, 07:41 PM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,527 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
I think George at AA has a car with one in it. I think Road Race in the LA area the SF Valley had one for sale a while ago. Ck Ebay
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Steve |
Aug 24 2023, 08:17 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,592 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
I saw the one that George has for sale way before he bought it at the Parts Heaven swap meet. Should have bought it. It was under $20k at the time, but I thought a 4 speed auto how lame. Should of known it would be worth a fortune some day.
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jagalyn |
Aug 24 2023, 08:32 PM
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True Patina Group: Members Posts: 414 Joined: 31-January 06 From: Scandia, MN Member No.: 5,503 Region Association: None |
I used to own the 1971 914/6 sportomatic that George Hussey owns. I sold it to him in 1998 for $25,000. There were 4 of them made. One is in Sweden, 2 in the USA and the other one is unaccounted for.
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rgalla9146 |
Aug 24 2023, 08:57 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,559 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
I've driven both VW Autosticks and 911Sportomatics.
They must be shifted up through the gears to perform adequately. AND...dont let your right knee touch that knob ! |
burton73 |
Aug 24 2023, 09:18 PM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,527 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
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burton73 |
Aug 24 2023, 09:24 PM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,527 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
My first wife of 30 years had a VW auto stick shift. Being a stupid High School kid, I would touch the shifter and rev it up and let go. It never broke on us. By the way her parents got her a 914 first but she could not drive it. Kept staling it so they just sold the 1970 914 with no miles on it. Cannery Yellow same as my 6
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930cabman |
Aug 25 2023, 05:04 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,073 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
We had one in the early '70's in a bug, called it a touch clutch. Was kinda cool
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Jim C |
Aug 25 2023, 06:25 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 190 Joined: 11-July 19 From: Texas Member No.: 23,294 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Had a 1970 AutoStick Beetle. My daughter used it for a while to drive to school. Had to stress over and over do not drive with your hand on the gearshift knob unless you were going to shift.
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jhynesrockmtn |
Aug 25 2023, 07:20 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 418 Joined: 13-June 16 From: spokane wa Member No.: 20,100 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I had a sportomatic 911 project car that I had great plans for. I had bought most of the bits to switch it to a 901. I have the 4 speed sporto the previous owner mated to a 3.2 if anyone wants to build a sporto car :-) I'll donate it. The rest is long gone.
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ClayPerrine |
Aug 25 2023, 07:26 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,474 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
I've seen several 914-6 Sportos. (I believe that 25 of them were made, not counting prototypes.) Never seen a four-cylinder one, and I'm not at all convinced that there was ever one made in series production. --DD If you look in PET, there are part numbers listed for a 4 cylinder sportomatic 914. But They never made it into production. Same for the Webaso heater. There are part numbers in PET, but no 914 ever had one. Clay |
SirAndy |
Aug 25 2023, 09:17 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,651 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
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SirAndy |
Aug 25 2023, 09:19 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,651 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Same for the Webaso heater. There are part numbers in PET, but no 914 ever had one. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=8825 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
ClayPerrine |
Aug 25 2023, 09:43 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,474 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
Same for the Webaso heater. There are part numbers in PET, but no 914 ever had one. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=8825 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) I remember that thread, but I didn't remember that you actually had pictures of one. My father had a corvair when we moved to Ohio. He found a webaso heater from a wrecked VW bus and installed it in the corvair. It made life easier in the Ohio winter. |
sarivers2001 |
Aug 25 2023, 11:50 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 16-August 23 From: California Member No.: 27,527 Region Association: Northern California |
Anybody have any pictures of what the gearshifter inside the cockpit looked like?
Maybe George took some? |
SirAndy |
Aug 25 2023, 12:18 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,651 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Anybody have any pictures of what the gearshifter inside the cockpit looked like? Maybe George took some? @sarivers2001 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=86472 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) |
burton73 |
Aug 25 2023, 12:28 PM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,527 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
http://www.autoatlanta.com/life/showcase/
Some pictures of George's Sporto. It was a nice orange one Bob B |
sarivers2001 |
Aug 25 2023, 12:50 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 16-August 23 From: California Member No.: 27,527 Region Association: Northern California |
http://www.autoatlanta.com/life/showcase/ Some pictures of George's Sporto. It was a nice orange one Bob B Wow, that is really cool. How did it perform? |
burton73 |
Aug 25 2023, 01:53 PM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,527 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
This info was in our database:
Bob B Found online: Frank Pohl's 914-6 Sporto Thank you very much for your interest and thank you also for your great work with the Sportomatic-platform! http://www.sportomatic.org/sportowners/frank.htm Concerning the numbers of cars built, I did some research a several years ago. The result was, that I found about 10 body numbers. Unfortunately, my notices are lost. but I remember details of some cars: one Sportomatic belongs to Mr. Spicka in Germany. The car runs with a 2.4 S engine. A second car was featured in the French Magazine "Flat Six" a few years ago. A third had been wrecked in Stuttgart. It was a car with many prototype features. I saved the rear bumper for my 914. I was also offered a 914/4 Sporto in 1993. This car came from Wolfsburg, where the VW factory is. From the 914/4 Sporto probably 2 have been built, making this to one of the rarest Porsche. The 914/6-version has been built in a quantity of at least 25. The Porsche statements indicating 5 been built stem from Jürgen Barth and are not correct. My car (914 143 0120 went through about 10 pre-owners. The first was a WWII-veteran with just one leg - reason why he bought the car. The fourth owner did not like Sportomatic and built in a mechanical 5-speed-gearbox. In the late Seventies and early Eighties, the car underwent a career of an unliked child. After some further stations of not-caring possessors, there was not too much left from the car´s substance, apart from 4 layers of painting (originally tangerine 2310, then black, green and purple!!!), when I bought it and the rest was in miserable condition. Axles have been packed just on top of the interior, instruments stolen, the body sand blasted without covering glass nor cables nor plates. When we cut out the body, we removed nearly the complete chassis: no floor, no fenders, no doors, no longitudinal inner nor outer frame, no lids remaining. It was a desaster. And so was the interior, electricity, mechanics. You imagine the need for a 13-year-ground-up-restauration........ Fortunately, over the years, I could get a new interior, instruments, electric cables, a factory-new 911 T-Sportomatic -engine and a brand new gear box and so on. Somebody gave me a new converter in exchange for original 959 calipers. Strange ways to a new 914/6 Sportomatic.... Then, in 2002, the car was finally completed and drove for the first time after a 23-years rest. Unfortunately, after some kilometers, a piston burned out destroying the new (and last factory-sold 911 T) engine. Currently, I am enjoying a 2.2 E machine. Makes a lot fun. I am happy to answer all questions or sending you more photos. As soon as I have more time, I will be searching again for other 914 Sportos and sending you information. Best wishes Frank |
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