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> Clutch Tube reweld???, AA says to do it....
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post Aug 20 2005, 08:34 AM
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Well it's torn down and here is what I'm up against. I was hoping for better but I see now that a little bit of welding is in my near furture.
Looks like I won't be driving to Mark's today.
As you can see in the mirror the tube clamp is broken on the bottom.


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post Aug 20 2005, 08:38 AM
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In this pic you can see the fire wall is cracked ....BAD


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post Aug 20 2005, 08:39 AM
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And now I can sandblast the area and build a new support section. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/welder.gif)


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post Aug 20 2005, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE (tracks914 @ Aug 20 2005, 07:39 AM)
And now I can sandblast the area and build a new support section. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/welder.gif)

ayupp, a familiar sight ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)

good luck with the (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/welder.gif)
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post Aug 20 2005, 12:40 PM
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You know, while you're in there you should remove all that rust-hiding tar from the center tunnel and floorboards (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)


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post Aug 20 2005, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE (ClayPerrine @ Aug 19 2005, 06:49 AM)
One other alternative is to buy one of Rich Johnson's hydraulic clutch conversion kits.

Yea, I remember funding the R&D for that one.
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post Aug 21 2005, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE (jonwatts @ Aug 20 2005, 10:40 AM)
You know, while you're in there you should remove all that rust-hiding tar from the center tunnel and floorboards  ;)

That rust hiding tar is all new sound dampening material. When I did the frame up resto 3 years ago I tore out all the original stuff only to find a prestine floor. My tub was in great shape. That's why I was so surprised to see the firewall cracked. It wasn't cracked before, but I have put a few miles on it since then. The fire wall problem isn't a rust issue but a fatigue issue anyway. From the sounds of it, it was bound to happen.
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post Aug 21 2005, 07:10 PM
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The fixes are in.
3/32 Stainless Steel Plate, cut into template.


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post Aug 21 2005, 07:11 PM
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Placed over tubes, a tighter fit than it shows in the pictures.


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post Aug 21 2005, 07:15 PM
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Areas to be welded were sand blasted and welded with 308 SS rod.
Throttle cable was not welded to new support plate for fear of "too" much penetration thus creating a possible bad spot on the tube. (I hate it when your throttle sticks wide open)
It's actually a little prettier than the pictures show. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif)
Clutch tube is nice and tight. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)


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post Aug 21 2005, 07:20 PM
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Front tube was only 1/2 broken. The bottom 1/2 and it broke between the spot weld and the tube, meaning, there is nothing left to spot weld using Brad's method.
I went the less evasive route and used the "u" bolt from a 1/2" cable clamp, then sliced the the nuts in half, pretty much even with sound deadening material so that it is not noticable when the carpet is installed.

Works for me and I think it will be stronger than some of the welds I have seen pictures of.


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post Aug 21 2005, 09:18 PM
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You welded it with the gas line in???? You got some big ba........s! That plate was how I cooked the car I had just out of high school!!

Congratulations!

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post Aug 21 2005, 10:19 PM
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Here are the welds Mike Mueller did on my front tube repair. Brings a tear to my eye...Awesome job Mike and I really appreciate it!



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post Aug 22 2005, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE (Jeffs9146 @ Aug 21 2005, 07:18 PM)
You welded it with the gas line in???? You got some big ba........s! That plate was how I cooked the car I had just out of high school!!

Congratulations!

Jeff

Not balls.....calculated risk.
What you didn't see was the sheet metal shroud I had made and duct taped to the underside of the car, wrapped around underneath to shield the gas lines as I welded. No big deal then. The plate I used was heavy enough guage that it acted like a heat sink so the lines never got hot.
BTW, I had a garden hose and a fire extinguisher parked nearby too.
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post Aug 22 2005, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE (Jeffs9146 @ Aug 21 2005, 08:18 PM)
You welded it with the gas line in????

yepp, did that in the same exact spot as well. just wrapped a wet towel around the gas-lines. that did the trick ...

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post Aug 22 2005, 05:44 PM
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I just changed the gas lines last year and it was a bitch of a job. I didn't want to do that again.
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post Aug 22 2005, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE (tracks914 @ Aug 22 2005, 03:44 PM)
I just changed the gas lines last year and it was a bitch of a job. I didn't want to do that again.

Should have gone stainless then!
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post Aug 23 2005, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE (jkeyzer @ Aug 22 2005, 04:06 PM)

Should have gone stainless then!

Firewall wasn't all cracked then (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif)
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