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> How do I buy a car that isn't for sale?, 1974 2.0
Ace Le Count
post Apr 11 2024, 09:34 PM
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I have a situation... there is a 1974 2.0 a few miles from where I live. The owner has had it for a long time and for the past month or so it has been sitting on jackstands. The car is almost PERFECT. 4 lug Fuchs, auxiliary lights, center console, D-Jet, etc, etc. How do I convince him to let it go?? Any help would be appreciated!
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post Apr 11 2024, 09:39 PM
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About the only thing I can thing of is cash. Just keep counting out piles till he says yes.
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post Apr 11 2024, 09:45 PM
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Have a conversation with him. It’s sometimes like dating. Some sales happen right away, some take time. You have to feel him out but it all starts by walking up to the door and saying hi.
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post Apr 11 2024, 10:29 PM
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short answer. you can't.

instead you simply go face to face or leave a note in his letter box which says -
if you ever wish to sell this car ring me first - leave name and number.

it worked for me about 40 years ago when i was buying my VW squareback.
it took a while. i think about 9 months between the note and the phone call.
i "overpaid". but it was worth it. the car was in outstanding condition at the time.
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post Apr 11 2024, 10:35 PM
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Why is it on jackstands? You could engage him in conversation about the car, not necessarily about purchasing, but about your interest in 914s. If you can make friends with him it might put you in a good light if (when) he decides to sell. Good luck.
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QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Apr 11 2024, 11:35 PM) *

Why is it on jackstands? You could engage him in conversation about the car, not necessarily about purchasing, but about your interest in 914s. If you can make friends with him it might put you in a good light if (when) he decides to sell. Good luck.


I don't want to disclose too much information, just in case he's on 914 World.

He was bleeding the brakes a few weeks ago. That's why it's on jackstands. I've talked to him twice.
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post Apr 11 2024, 11:48 PM
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Realistically, are you prepared to pay for the car? If it’s in as great of shape as you say, he does the maintenance, he might be on here, he’ll be savvy enough to know the market. Are you prepared to pay top dollar? You’ll most likely only get one shot to purchase.
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post Apr 12 2024, 04:56 AM
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QUOTE(Shivers @ Apr 11 2024, 09:39 PM) *

About the only thing I can thing of is cash. Just keep counting out piles till he says yes.


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post Apr 12 2024, 06:18 AM
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Pull a Tanya Harding on him (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Apr 12 2024, 06:50 AM
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Sometimes as simple as offering Cubic Dollars

Other times it takes the long road and waiting to buy it from the Estate.. ??
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post Apr 12 2024, 07:56 AM
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Everyone could use a hand bleeding brakes. Might be a good conversation starter.
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post Apr 12 2024, 08:44 AM
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This reminds me of dating as mentioned above.. Garth Brooks sang, "thank God for unanswered prayers." You don't have to have THIS car. You only THINK you have to have this car. There are so many around the country that are in good shape, for sale. Some needing work, some not. Find one you like, at the price you are comfortable paying and grab one up to join the drive.

No point trying to cajole a guy whose dream it is to drive his 914. Pull up in one and have a friend in the neighborhood you can tandem drive to coffee in while driving your cool pair of 914's!!!

That being said, maybe it is "the one..."
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post Apr 12 2024, 08:51 AM
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914 "friends" are one of the most valuable things we have.

It's the reason for this forum.

Might not be "that" car but the owner might know of others...

Lots of folks on here have posted nice projects they knew about and decided to pass on.

I'd make friends FIRST!

Be complementary and helpful if possible.

Advise him of the forum if he's un-aware.

I'd make sure he knew that I would cherish his car should he decide to sell it.

So many long-term owners want the car to go to someone who will love it as they have.

If you can drive up in another 914 you have an automatic "in".
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post Apr 12 2024, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Apr 11 2024, 08:29 PM) *

short answer. you can't.




(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) That^

One of my 914s was the first car I ever bought, its been with 25+ years now and I have always said I will never sell it.

Now I am sure if for some reason someone offered me an absurd amount of money for it there is a price I would let it go for but it would in no way be in the buyers best interest so I don't see that happening. Anyone that wants my car will most likely be negating with my wife and/or daughter when im dead.
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post Apr 12 2024, 09:46 AM
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It took 12 years of persistent but polite interest before I could finalize the purchase of my 1967 Karmann Ghia convertible. Be prepared for the long haul if you truly want THIS car. Keep your eye out for other cars. In my experience something always comes up if you are patient.
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post Apr 12 2024, 09:50 AM
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I think it might be mepstein’s quote or paraphrasing.

A deal of a lifetime comes around once a month

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As stated above, some cars just aren’t for sale. I once tried to buy a Renault Dauphine that was rotting in a field. The owner was clearly in no position to do anything with it. Polite inquiry yielded the “I’m going to restore it” answer even though that wasn’t even a physical possibility for the owner. It was just his dream . . .

BTW - I plead temporary insanity as to why I was even interested in a Dauphine.
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post Apr 12 2024, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(technicalninja @ Apr 12 2024, 07:51 AM) *

I'd make friends FIRST!

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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 12 2024, 08:58 AM) *

QUOTE(technicalninja @ Apr 12 2024, 07:51 AM) *

I'd make friends FIRST!

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post Apr 12 2024, 10:19 AM
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Tell him it's a NARP and that you'll be doing him a favor by taking it off his hands (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Apr 12 2024, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Apr 12 2024, 11:50 AM) *

I think it might be mepstein’s quote or paraphrasing.

A deal of a lifetime comes around once a month

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As stated above, some cars just aren’t for sale. I once tried to buy a Renault Dauphine that was rotting in a field. The owner was clearly in no position to do anything with it. Polite inquiry yielded the “I’m going to restore it” answer even though that wasn’t even a physical possibility for the owner. It was just his dream . . .

BTW - I plead temporary insanity as to why I was even interested in a Dauphine.

I heard the quote somewhere and it stuck with me. My business partner proves it true all the time. The other quote I think of all the time goes something like - If you don’t ask, the answer is no.
I prefer to buy things that aren’t listed for sale. Much less competition.
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