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Fix passenger side longitudinal |
boutch55555 |
May 12 2024, 07:29 PM
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Front yard mechanic |
May 12 2024, 07:45 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,169 Joined: 23-July 15 From: New Mexico Member No.: 18,984 Region Association: None |
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Montreal914 |
May 12 2024, 07:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,571 Joined: 8-August 10 From: Claremont, CA Member No.: 12,023 Region Association: Southern California |
Salut boutch55555!
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) For the benefit of the cummunity, I will continue in English... You are in for a fair amount of work, sorry to say... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Luckily Restoration Design is not too far from you, check them out if you haven't already. Pete is a 914 guy too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I invite you to read through the various build threads here: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showforum=78 There are many very good ones, but I would start with these two: Jeff Hail: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=76791 michelko: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=16748 Plennnnnty of very resourceful people here. rick 918-S is currently repairing a 914-6 and truly makes art! Check his thread in the garage (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) Bonne chance et publie ton travail au fur et à mesure! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
SirAndy |
May 12 2024, 08:11 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Luckily Restoration Design is not too far from you, check them out if you haven't already. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) https://www.restoration-design.com/store/category/914 |
boutch55555 |
May 12 2024, 08:14 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 14 Joined: 20-December 23 From: Quebec Member No.: 27,803 Region Association: Canada |
Salut toi aussi.
Luckily Restoration Design is not too far from you, check them out if you haven't already. Pete is a 914 guy too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Got the the whole pan + outer rockers from them already. My main concern was if there was a cheaper / easier way to do that repair, hopefully that doesn't involve removing 4 more metal parts from the car. |
Superhawk996 |
May 12 2024, 10:14 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,875 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Repair it properly or don’t waste the time on this chassis. There is nothing left there to weld to.
Someone’s life may depend on that seatbelt attachment and there is no structure left at that attachment. Similarly the main structure of the car is dependent on the longitudinal and there’s not much left there. |
930cabman |
May 13 2024, 05:16 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,130 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
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Yep, you are in for an adventure of 50 years old unibody restoration. Please ask, the guys/gals here are very helpful |
boutch55555 |
May 13 2024, 05:34 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 14 Joined: 20-December 23 From: Quebec Member No.: 27,803 Region Association: Canada |
Repair it properly or don’t waste the time on this chassis. There is nothing left there to weld to. Yeah, I'm not looking at putting lipstick on a pig neither, like the previous owner did with the epoxy on the floor. I'm not looking at simply welding over it, I will rebuild the whole section, I was hoping to avoid removing the door threshold, the inner rocker, part of the rear body (especially that) and the wheel house to fix it. Guess I'll start digging tonight to see how bad it is. |
Geezer914 |
May 13 2024, 05:35 AM
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Geezer914 Group: Members Posts: 1,433 Joined: 18-March 09 From: Salem, NJ Member No.: 10,179 Region Association: North East States |
I would seriously be looking for another tub. That chassis is too far gone. If the long is that far gone what does the rest of the car look like that you can't see? You can not resurrect the dead.
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930cabman |
May 13 2024, 05:39 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,130 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
I would seriously be looking for another tub. That chassis is too far gone. If the long is that far gone what does the rest of the car look like that you can't see? You can not resurrect the dead. I wouldn't necessarily agree, we have seen much worse. If thats the worst of it, I would go after it correctly, will probably involve a couple hand made shapes, but will then be good for another 1/2 century. |
Superhawk996 |
May 13 2024, 05:54 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,875 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
I would seriously be looking for another tub. That chassis is too far gone. If the long is that far gone what does the rest of the car look like that you can't see? You can not resurrect the dead. I wouldn't necessarily agree, we have seen much worse. If thats the worst of it, I would go after it correctly, will probably involve a couple hand made shapes, but will then be good for another 1/2 century. The question to ask is why try to make any of that by hand. All the metal is readily available and will be far stronger than hand made patch panels welded to already compromised metal. I’ve been in this exact same position. For OP, link to my personal restoration in my signature. Brent Brock’s restoration which was further gone than almost anyone’s http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=307290 Jeff Hail - this thread has build cart info as well as “how to” for rotted East Coast cars http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=76791 |
mepstein |
May 13 2024, 06:10 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,307 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Tip of the iceberg.
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boutch55555 |
May 13 2024, 06:27 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 14 Joined: 20-December 23 From: Quebec Member No.: 27,803 Region Association: Canada |
I would seriously be looking for another tub. That chassis is too far gone. If the long is that far gone what does the rest of the car look like that you can't see? You can not resurrect the dead. I wouldn't necessarily agree, we have seen much worse. If thats the worst of it, I would go after it correctly, will probably involve a couple hand made shapes, but will then be good for another 1/2 century. As far as I can tell it's indeed the absolute worst part of the car. The passenger door was sagging about 1/4", I jacked it to straighten, before adding braces in the door mounts to keep it straight. |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
May 13 2024, 08:34 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
not bad at all, you can buy an inner real longitudinal piece and use some of it to repair if you do not want to make a replacement piece
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dr914@autoatlanta.com |
May 13 2024, 08:36 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
So, I just finished removing the floor, I'm left with (among others) that to fix before installing the new one. Can I just cut the rot and have a welder patch it with something based on steel angle ? How else ? http://www.autoatlanta.com/Porsche-914-Lon...450143410B.html |
mepstein |
May 13 2024, 08:57 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,307 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Let’s see the inner and outer suspension consoles.
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930cabman |
May 13 2024, 09:10 AM
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mepstein |
May 13 2024, 09:23 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,307 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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rjames |
May 13 2024, 09:25 AM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 3,948 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Yup, let's see more pics of the car.
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boutch55555 |
May 13 2024, 09:55 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 14 Joined: 20-December 23 From: Quebec Member No.: 27,803 Region Association: Canada |
I'd say it doesn't look nearly as bad past that point. There was a puddle of water soaking in the rug under the passenger's seat about 3 weeks after I got it (no rain since purchase), my guess was that a bad door seal allowed water to get in and it rusted away in PO's parking lot for a couple years.
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