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> Tear Down and Reassemble Unstarted 1.7 built to 2270, 1.7 to 2270 Unstarted 10 Year Old Build
Robroe
post Jul 23 2024, 06:04 PM
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Moved from topic of first start of 10 year old build to tear down, inspect and reassemble. The 10 year old build is from a 73 1.7 to a 2270. Stroked to 78 mm and 96 mm cylinder diameter. Heads are Ham/RAT with 36 mm exhaust and 44 mm intake. Both are nicely ported.

Have torn it down to the case and checking crank end play before I split the case and pull the cam and crank. So far, everything is new and looks in good order. I'm concerned about oil passages being blocked with old assembly lube so a complete tear down and reassemble is happening. Discovered stacked cylinder spacers (4) totaling .150". So looking to replace those with single spacers. So far I can only find .160" spacers from type 4 store and may just use them as impact on compression appears minimal. Was shocked to discover crank end play is .450"! Sure glad I didn't try to start this thing. Will check again in the morning to make sure I'm checking it correctly, but I'm doing the same thing on the videos such as Ian Carrs YouTube engine builds so pretty sure I'm checking it correctly. Now to figure out what to do about that huge end play.

Any thoughts about what to watch out for?
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Robroe   Tear Down and Reassemble Unstarted 1.7 built to 2270   Jul 23 2024, 06:04 PM
Jack Standz   @burton73 Not only does that piston have a short...   Aug 1 2024, 09:52 AM
Jack Standz   Here is a JE forged piston where the oil ring is a...   Aug 1 2024, 10:00 AM
Superhawk996   Anyone have an idea what the hole (the one drille...   Aug 1 2024, 10:32 AM
technicalninja   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Aug 1 2024, 11:21 AM
technicalninja   Help a Ninja out please... At some things I'm...   Aug 1 2024, 11:23 AM
technicalninja   Last bit bout the three piston designs we've s...   Aug 1 2024, 12:02 PM
930cabman   I have had great luck with the CB pump #1829. Grea...   Aug 1 2024, 12:25 PM
Robroe   I have had great luck with the CB pump #1829. Gre...   Aug 1 2024, 02:30 PM
Robroe   Ninja, You requested photos of cylinders. Is this...   Aug 1 2024, 02:41 PM
Jack Standz   [quote name='Jack Standz' post='3159693' date='Au...   Aug 1 2024, 01:23 PM
Jack Standz   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?...   Aug 1 2024, 01:36 PM
burton73   [quote name='technicalninja' post='3159713' date=...   Aug 1 2024, 03:22 PM
Jack Standz   This is where you add photos after you click on ad...   Aug 1 2024, 01:39 PM
Jack Standz   [quote name='Jack Standz' post='3159693' date='Au...   Aug 1 2024, 01:47 PM
Shivers   [quote name='Jack Standz' post='3159693' date='A...   Aug 1 2024, 02:01 PM
technicalninja   Those look fine! That's just two pictures...   Aug 1 2024, 02:50 PM
Robroe   Dumbest newbie question so far. Looking at the cr...   Aug 3 2024, 02:39 PM
930cabman   Dumbest newbie question so far. Looking at the c...   Aug 3 2024, 02:45 PM
Superhawk996   Have you spoken with an engine builder, with al...   Aug 3 2024, 03:15 PM
Jack Standz   [quote name='burton73' post='3159709' date='Aug ...   Aug 1 2024, 03:20 PM
Jack Standz   @Burton73 Thanks for the piston information/she...   Aug 1 2024, 03:30 PM
930cabman   Might consider having this professionally built. ...   Aug 1 2024, 03:52 PM
Superhawk996   No dumb questions. Better to ask and be sure vs g...   Aug 3 2024, 02:46 PM
technicalninja   The cylinder numbering sequence on the T4 is THE M...   Aug 3 2024, 04:01 PM
Superhawk996   The T4 (and other air-cooled VWs I think) have ...   Aug 3 2024, 04:46 PM
Robroe   This is NOT what you are doing with this engine...   Aug 3 2024, 04:51 PM
technicalninja   I'd rather be wet and juicy over dry and crust...   Aug 3 2024, 04:52 PM
Robroe   Weights and Measures Piston Weight (gm) Rod Wei...   Aug 4 2024, 04:24 PM
technicalninja   you've got a 2-gram difference. I'd run t...   Aug 4 2024, 05:36 PM
technicalninja   Just went back through the pics looking for rod pi...   Aug 4 2024, 06:00 PM
Superhawk996   On the rods... Do you have piston squirters bui...   Aug 4 2024, 07:44 PM
Robroe   No oiler holes in connecting rods. No grooves. S...   Aug 4 2024, 10:45 PM
Robroe   Like this? both sides? All the way to the bearing...   Aug 4 2024, 10:51 PM
Superhawk996   Like this? both sides? All the way to the bearin...   Aug 4 2024, 10:58 PM
930cabman   100% agree with giving the pistons a squirt, IIRC ...   Aug 4 2024, 06:17 PM
Shivers   100% agree with giving the pistons a squirt, IIRC...   Aug 4 2024, 06:55 PM
Superhawk996   Chromoly push rods preferred due to ability to set...   Aug 4 2024, 10:55 PM
Robroe   Chromoly push rods preferred due to ability to se...   Aug 5 2024, 12:59 PM
Robroe   Here's a picture of the rod groove done with a...   Aug 5 2024, 01:42 PM
930cabman   Here's a picture of the rod groove done with ...   Aug 5 2024, 01:59 PM
Superhawk996   Hawk - Not sure what to look for regarding case...   Aug 5 2024, 02:10 PM
Jack Standz   Aluminum pushrods are more than OK to use, if they...   Aug 5 2024, 03:50 AM
technicalninja   If you remove the same amount of material, it shou...   Aug 5 2024, 02:11 PM
technicalninja   As you haven't verified crank balancing, I...   Aug 5 2024, 02:21 PM
Robroe   As you haven't verified crank balancing, I...   Aug 6 2024, 03:43 PM
technicalninja   you're going to have to answer that one yourse...   Aug 6 2024, 03:56 PM
Superhawk996   $98 is well spent. Having the assembly bala...   Aug 6 2024, 04:24 PM
Superhawk996   $98 is well spent. Having the assembly bal...   Aug 6 2024, 04:26 PM
930cabman   $98 is well spent. Having the assembly ba...   Aug 6 2024, 04:34 PM
Robroe   [quote name='Superhawk996' post='3160672' date='A...   Aug 6 2024, 07:52 PM
Robroe   It’s the assembly. Crank, flywheel and fan. [/qu...   Aug 6 2024, 07:54 PM
930cabman   [quote name='Superhawk996' post='3160672' date='...   Aug 7 2024, 02:00 PM
technicalninja   Disc should be considered part of the "transm...   Aug 7 2024, 02:20 PM
930cabman   60 grams, that's close to 10# or so :evilgrin...   Aug 8 2024, 09:05 AM
Jack Standz   I'd say a bracket race car with 2 rods that we...   Aug 8 2024, 10:54 AM
technicalninja   And it gets worse! The rods were marked for p...   Aug 8 2024, 12:08 PM
Robroe   Connecting rods are grooved with round jewelers fi...   Aug 16 2024, 05:19 PM
Superhawk996   Looking forward to finally assembling. Have y...   Aug 16 2024, 05:48 PM
Robroe   Looking forward to finally assembling. Have ...   Aug 16 2024, 06:04 PM
Superhawk996   Do you assemble the case without sealant to plas...   Aug 16 2024, 06:33 PM
930cabman   [quote name='Superhawk996' post='3162399' date='A...   Aug 16 2024, 06:35 PM
Robroe   Oil clearance on the crank journals is .002" ...   Aug 18 2024, 03:27 PM
930cabman   Oil clearance on the crank journals is .002...   Aug 18 2024, 03:37 PM
Superhawk996   Oil clearance on the crank journals is .002...   Aug 19 2024, 11:35 AM
emerygt350   Sounds great. Dakota digital cht is nice but ugly...   Aug 16 2024, 05:39 PM
technicalninja   Measure deck height on all 4 cylinders and pick th...   Aug 18 2024, 04:08 PM
bkrantz   Measure deck height on all 4 cylinders and pick t...   Aug 18 2024, 08:08 PM
Superhawk996   Measure deck height on all 4 cylinders and pick ...   Aug 19 2024, 11:36 AM
Robroe   I’ll typically mock up a case at least two if no...   Aug 19 2024, 12:59 PM
technicalninja   Be CAREFUL using plastigauge. The stuff SHRINKS w...   Aug 19 2024, 12:34 PM
930cabman   Be CAREFUL using plastigauge. The stuff SHRINKS ...   Aug 19 2024, 01:05 PM
Robroe   Test assembled case before sealing it up to measur...   Aug 26 2024, 10:37 AM
Jack Standz   So, have you contacted the typeivstore/lnengineeri...   Aug 26 2024, 11:20 AM
Robroe   So, have you contacted the typeivstore/lnengineer...   Aug 26 2024, 12:24 PM
Superhawk996   Look for a local machine shop that can do Blanchar...   Aug 26 2024, 01:12 PM
Robroe   Look for a local machine shop that can do Blancha...   Aug 26 2024, 01:54 PM
Robroe   Look for a local machine shop that can do Blanch...   Aug 26 2024, 02:56 PM
Superhawk996   Ugh - I relocated from Detroit so used to having ...   Aug 26 2024, 03:18 PM
Robroe   Ugh - I relocated from Detroit so used to having...   Aug 26 2024, 04:38 PM
Superhawk996   I was targeting around 9 C/R. If I went with t...   Aug 26 2024, 04:54 PM
Robroe   I was targeting around 9 C/R. If I went with ...   Aug 26 2024, 11:10 PM
emerygt350   I would go for the lower compression and just tell...   Aug 26 2024, 07:15 PM
emerygt350   Can't remember... Do your pistons have a valve...   Aug 27 2024, 04:57 AM
Superhawk996   Can't remember... Do your pistons have a valv...   Aug 27 2024, 07:37 AM
Robroe   Can't remember... Do your pistons have a val...   Aug 30 2024, 05:49 PM
Robroe   [quote name='Superhawk996' post='3164138' date='A...   Aug 30 2024, 05:57 PM
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