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> Cold Start Issue 914-4, Admitting I'm stuck and asking for help
Blue Lightning
post Mar 16 2025, 06:20 PM
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Car: 1976 2.0, FI

Background: bought in November last year. I am least the 4th owner. Drove a couple times, then plugged up the fuel filter (? no fuel pressure when the fuel pump was running, but see note below on replacing the fuel pressure regulator), so spent a couple months with the gas tank out and replacing the fuel lines, pump (and yes, filter). Read a lot in the meantime, so corrected vacuum line issues (vac advance was connected, replaced all the lines that didn't already look new, added hose clamps). But where the car started and ran well last year, I can't get it to happily start any longer. While cranking, it will skip and catch. After a few minutes of cranking (and skipping and catching) it will finally start and run fine for a few minutes but only idle around 1000 rpm (until the AAR warms up the rest of the way?), then dies. Starter fluid has no effect, so guessing it is running rich? Pulling the air hose off the cold start injector while running causes the idle to increase to maybe 1400 rpm (but with hunting, as you might expect with that big leak). There are a lot of threads on what to look for when the engine is running lean, but few on it running rich.

Some things I have checked:
- AAR works (https://youtu.be/YmO1ZCLDB7g)
- Compression is good (130-140 psi cold)
- Replaced the MPS last weekend with new one from autoatlanta, after finding the previous one would not hold a vacuum
- Replaced fuel pressure regulator after finding it bad (yes, I've been told these never go bad, but this one would not hold any pressure). Fuel pressure set to ~29 psi.
- Timing is good (~27 degrees at 3500 rpm with vac retard disconnected)
- Vac retard mechanism is working (checked with vacuum pump)
- Spark on all 4 cylinders (checked by timing light)
- Smoke tested the intake...only leaks now are the bearings on the throttle plate
- CHT reads 2k at cold, ~250ohms at warm/hot (at splice connector)
- Plugs look okay (see attached)
- Fuel injectors are all spitting fuel (checked into bottles...all about the same) and have new seals
- idle adjust screw has some control, but I cannot get the idle above 1000 rpm with it
- valves adjusted back in December (my first time, but the car runs so I assume I didn't do too bad of a job?)

I'm at a loss of what to try next. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif) I'd like to consider myself fairly good with cars (we have a 1966 Mustang, as well as a Mazda RX-8 that I have kept running for >20 years), but I'm about ready to throw in the towel and have the 914 towed to someone smarter than me!

Thoughts?


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Blue Lightning   Cold Start Issue 914-4   Mar 16 2025, 06:20 PM
Superhawk996   This happened to be a 911 cooler on an engine I to...   Mar 30 2025, 05:55 PM
Superhawk996   Shows how your flaps work and why they are mandato...   Mar 30 2025, 05:59 PM
Blue Lightning   Challenging assumptions...checking that I have the...   Mar 31 2025, 05:40 PM
Superhawk996   Ah. . . . I thought only the CHT was aftermarket. ...   Mar 31 2025, 07:10 PM
Blue Lightning   Ah. . . . I thought only the CHT was aftermarket....   Apr 1 2025, 04:30 AM
Ron914   Ah. . . . I thought only the CHT was aftermarket...   Apr 1 2025, 07:06 AM
Superhawk996   You guys are funny. Let me offer a point of vie...   Apr 1 2025, 07:27 AM
Blue Lightning   Good progress today. I replaced the coil with a n...   Apr 5 2025, 05:43 PM
emerygt350   Out of curiosity, how hot did the cylinder head ge...   Apr 5 2025, 09:42 PM
Blue Lightning   Out of curiosity, how hot did the cylinder head g...   Apr 6 2025, 10:05 AM
Superhawk996   The CHT says under 200F, which doesn't seem l...   Apr 6 2025, 10:13 AM
Blue Lightning   Make sure you’re using the proper thermocouple ...   Apr 7 2025, 06:47 AM
Superhawk996   I posted picture of the flaps for 3/4 side but I d...   Apr 6 2025, 10:23 AM
Blue Lightning   I posted picture of the flaps for 3/4 side but I ...   Apr 7 2025, 06:50 AM
Superhawk996   I posted picture of the flaps for 3/4 side but I...   Apr 7 2025, 08:00 AM
emerygt350   I agree with hawk. Until you know more, I wouldn...   Apr 6 2025, 02:56 PM
emerygt350   Just as a data point (everyone's cars are diff...   Apr 7 2025, 07:10 AM
Blue Lightning   Just as a data point (everyone's cars are dif...   Apr 7 2025, 10:53 AM
emerygt350   Just as a data point (everyone's cars are di...   Apr 7 2025, 12:36 PM
Blue Lightning   I had some luck peeking in there that way. I ha...   Apr 14 2025, 10:26 AM
Blue Lightning   Quick update. Readjusted (loosened up a bit) the ...   Apr 14 2025, 10:30 AM
Blue Lightning   Took car out for a longer drive today, about 40 mi...   Apr 19 2025, 08:25 AM
Superhawk996   Lots of pages here but a quick look at page 1 I do...   Apr 19 2025, 02:20 PM
Blue Lightning   Lots of pages here but a quick look at page 1 I d...   Apr 20 2025, 05:06 AM
emerygt350   The ECU is only for idle (although I wonder someti...   Apr 20 2025, 05:18 AM
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