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jr91472
post Aug 30 2005, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE (SEEMORE BUTZ @ Aug 30 2005, 05:32 AM)
QUOTE (jr91472 @ Aug 30 2005, 05:29 AM)
Mine was set up by a professional mechanic with lots of 914 experience.

O....k.....lot's of 914 experience. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

yep....my point being that I didn't do it, and therefore could not offer any advise on how to set up. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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post Aug 30 2005, 09:28 AM
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And my point was.....wait I had one.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif)

Oh yeah...an experienced 914 wrench knows how to work on FI and would not throw a crappy Pinto carb designed for an INLINE Ford on a 914.....

But IF it's the only thing ya gots.....run it richer than a green burrito fart cause it won't run otherwise.
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post Aug 30 2005, 10:49 AM
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My '73 2.0 has a Weber 32/36 DFAV installed by the PO. Eventually, it will get duals or FI, but right now I have more pressing problems to address.

My ride is not a daily driver, and will basically be a good weather three seasons fun ride with an occasional autocross.

I know that a single carb is not the ideal setup, esp. in colder temperatures. But I have rebuilt it and it runs very well in 70+ degree days (have not used in cooler temps yet) albeit a bit rich (seriously, just a bit). Yeah, it was designed for a Pinto originally, but were the 40 idas, etc. specifically designed for the type 4? And what in the heck does that matter, anyway?

If you don't like single carbs, or carbs at all for that matter, great. Do not put them on your car. But what is with the "you are a dumb ass with a single carb who knows nothing" sermons? Lets give it a rest people, and simply enjoy our rides.
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post Aug 30 2005, 11:36 AM
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Cool yer jets Joe Bob (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif) ....I doan see anyone here posting that installed them....just guys that are stuck with them...

What I do see is people saying there's no problem with them. There IS a problem....they have been known to burp and cause fires.....the recomended set up is detrimental to engine life and does nothing for performance.

Most if NOT ALL single carb installs are done because an owner was talked into it by a wrench who doesn't know FI. So calling a wrench an experienced 914 mechanic that puts a single carb on a 914 is an oxymoron.....

That's the point I'm trying to make.....
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post Aug 30 2005, 12:04 PM
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are you talking about ME?

YOU cool YOUR jets.....

I didn't have the money/time to put into getting either the 1.7 FI or the 2.0 FI to work correctly....so the solution at present is what i did...


it runs good enough at over 90deg...drove it everyday. With the exception of my one problem, I spend less time on the side of the road now than I did before...and with that, I call that more reliable...

yeah I know that me getting high 20s/low 30s MPG is because my engine is breathing through a straw and that my engine won't last that long blah blah....I know that already, but this 1.7 was kinda just thrown in the car to get me going awhile so I can save up to build my 2.2 or bigger engine....with megasquirt.


so yes, I *KNOW* that my carbs worked way better than both my 2.0 and 1.7 FI systems in thier current state, but I know that I could do better too.



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post Aug 30 2005, 12:11 PM
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post Aug 30 2005, 12:23 PM
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no.

I have a computer I need to put linux on. I enjoy that.
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post Aug 30 2005, 12:26 PM
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sorry I brought it up (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)
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post Aug 30 2005, 12:29 PM
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pretty much man, some people think it works from real-world experience and most think it doesnt work

if you go with FI, my advice to you is to go aftermarket.

if you go carbs, and you do single carb, dont tell anyone about it on here....
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post Aug 30 2005, 12:35 PM
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I had the pinto carb on Dad's car. It went lean & blew a hole in a piston. I turned the carb into a fishing weight.
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QUOTE (markb @ Aug 30 2005, 11:35 AM)
I had the pinto carb on Dad's car. It went lean & blew a hole in a piston. I turned the carb into a fishing weight.

gave it the old float test....
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post Aug 30 2005, 12:43 PM
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I had a Pinto carb on a car that I had and it worked freakin great.






It was a '72 Pinto...
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post Aug 30 2005, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE (Headrage @ Aug 30 2005, 11:43 AM)
I had a Pinto carb on a car that I had and it worked freakin great.






It was a '72 Pinto...

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post Aug 30 2005, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE (bd1308 @ Aug 30 2005, 02:29 PM)


if you go with FI, my advice to you is to go aftermarket.


Dude... would you freakin put that crack pipe down. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif)

Maybe... just maybe you really oughta FREAKIN THINK before you post.

We've had the discussion before. There is nothing wrong with the factory FI system. Properly maintained with correct vacuum hoses, MPS in working order ect... it is flawless. Tell you what I'll give you my orginal FI system and you give me the money you would spend on an aftermarket system. Then I'll go buy another OEM system and pocket the difference.

Come on Sprout think (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)
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post Aug 30 2005, 01:13 PM
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post Aug 30 2005, 01:27 PM
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screw the OEM stuff.....

I have a box with three harnesses that are shot
one new 1.7 MPS
two computers--a 2.0 and a 1.7


been listed in the classifieds for a long time, and nobody hooked it.

in my experiece, I spent more time splicing wires and fixing corroded wires than I did driving the car....

never smoked in my life.

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post Aug 30 2005, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE (bd1308 @ Aug 30 2005, 03:27 PM)
in my experiece, I spent more time splicing wires and fixing corroded wires than I did driving the car...

but this was, in part, because you believed it was more cost-effective that way, and because (i am ass-u-ming here...) you looked at it and said "how hard could it be?"

this is where a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.

most people look at the harness and say "what a nightmare," sigh, and write Jeff Bowlsby a check for a reman harness.

the harnesses are old, the engines ran hot, and stuff gets brittle. you get wires with broken conductors inside the insulation inside the sheathing.

this is one reason 928's show up for next to nothing all the time - they have electric everything and all of it gets intermittent glitches. there's about a mile of wire in a 928...
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post Aug 30 2005, 03:33 PM
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but i didnt have the $$ to buy a new harness....

then replace my type3 MPS with one that actually was supposed to be on my car

then just when i thought i was taking care of the problem, my engine died....plugs were all super white, ash coated plugs from running lean.....

so i decided to just go with the carb until i could think things out.
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