Turn signal indicator lights come on with key Options

[Spoke]

@Spoke

Do you open up a stock EP26 and modify it to connect the C pin to ground?

Thanks

George

Yes. I show how to make the mod on my website if you want to do the mod yourself.

[GeorgeKopf]

Yes. I show how to make the mod on my website if you want to do the mod yourself.

First of all, you are the man! Thank you for being so generous with your time and expertise.

Second, I'll buy one of your LED relays. Would you prefer that I do it through your website?

Thanks.

George

[Spoke]

Yes. I show how to make the mod on my website if you want to do the mod yourself.

First of all, you are the man! Thank you for being so generous with your time and expertise.

Second, I'll buy one of your LED relays. Would you prefer that I do it through your website?

Thanks.

George

Yes. The website is the easiest way.

[GeorgeKopf]

Before I start a new thread .....


<edit> I just found the answer on 914rubber.com <edit>
https://914rubber-tk.com/doku.php?id=troubl...oglight_problem

You can read the rest for context but the above post has the answer.


While I was waiting for the new flasher relay to arrive, I decided to tackle the fog lights.

With the low beam lights on, when I pull out the fog light switch:
1. High beams switch on
2. High beam indicator comes on

With the high beams on, when I pull out the fog light switch:
1. High beams stay on
2. High beam indicator stays on

I measured the inputs and outputs of the fog light relay:

Pin 30 input power and shows 12 volts
Pin 86 receives power from the fog light switch (gray/red wire)

Here is where it gets weird:
Pin 87 is never energized, switch in or out (white/yellow to the fog lights)
Pin 87a is always energized, switch in or out (dead ended in the socket)

UNTIL I measure Pin 85! Once I put my multi-meter on pin 85 (with the fog light switch pulled out) I now get power (12 volts) on pin 87 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (and to the fog lights) and no power on Pin 87a (which is how it should be).

Pin 85 (8.5 volts) connects to the (white/blue) (high beam indicator, connects to the white wire at the fuse panel which feeds the combination relay and the headlights)

Still, pulling out the fog light switch always turns my high beams and the indicator on (instead of off).

27 is the combination relay
53 is the fog light relay
36 is the fog light switch


Power flows from the fog light switch (36) (grey/red) to pin 86 on the relay (53).
From there power flows to pin 85 (white/blue) which turns on the high beam indicator in the tachometer and connects to the white wire feeding the low beams and the combination relay (27)
From the combination relay it sends power to my high beams (yellow wire).

Is this an independent problem or something horrifically wrong with my wiring harness?

Thanks.

George

[GeorgeKopf]

@Spokes


<edit> I just found the answer on 914rubber.com <edit>
https://914rubber-tk.com/doku.php?id=troubl...oglight_problem


You can read the rest for context but the answer is in the above link.

I just found and read this post: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...264737&st=0

Turns out what I'm experiencing is classic with LED headlights.

My wiring harness is a 1973. There are two white/blue wires connected to my #1 fuse. One comes from the fog light relay and the other goes to the high-beam indicator in my tachometer.
......
I tried grounding them both. This solves the problem of switching to the high-beams and the relay now provides power to the fog lights. But the high-beam indicator doesn't work anymore. I'm guessing that I need to cut apart the two white/blue wires and only ground the one coming from the fog light relay.

Do I have this right?

Thanks.

George

[Spoke]

@Spokes


<edit> I just found the answer on 914rubber.com <edit>
https://914rubber-tk.com/doku.php?id=troubl...oglight_problem


You can read the rest for context but the answer is in the above link.

I just found and read this post: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...264737&st=0

Turns out what I'm experiencing is classic with LED headlights.

My wiring harness is a 1973. There are two white/blue wires connected to my #1 fuse. One comes from the fog light relay and the other goes to the high-beam indicator in my tachometer.
......
I tried grounding them both. This solves the problem of switching to the high-beams and the relay now provides power to the fog lights. But the high-beam indicator doesn't work anymore. I'm guessing that I need to cut apart the two white/blue wires and only ground the one coming from the fog light relay.

Do I have this right?

Thanks.

George

@GeorgeKopf

Correct about the high beam indicator. My '71 was not wired with 2 white/blue wires. The white/blue for the fog relay had to be cut from the larger white wire on my 914. I suppose you will need to do the same. Just figure out which white/blue wire is from the foglight relay and cut it off from the other white/blue.

[BillC]

@Spoke s


<edit> I just found the answer on 914rubber.com <edit>
https://914rubber-tk.com/doku.php?id=troubl...oglight_problem


You can read the rest for context but the answer is in the above link.

I just found and read this post: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...264737&st=0

Turns out what I'm experiencing is classic with LED headlights.

My wiring harness is a 1973. There are two white/blue wires connected to my #1 fuse. One comes from the fog light relay and the other goes to the high-beam indicator in my tachometer.
......
I tried grounding them both. This solves the problem of switching to the high-beams and the relay now provides power to the fog lights. But the high-beam indicator doesn't work anymore. I'm guessing that I need to cut apart the two white/blue wires and only ground the one coming from the fog light relay.

Do I have this right?

Thanks.

George

@GeorgeKopf

Correct about the high beam indicator. My '71 was not wired with 2 white/blue wires. The white/blue for the fog relay had to be cut from the larger white wire on my 914. I suppose you will need to do the same. Just figure out which white/blue wire is from the foglight relay and cut it off from the other white/blue.

@Spoke @GeorgeKopf
Thank you both very much for this golden nugget of information. I had been wondering why there were two white/blue wires on the connector when the directions for the fog light fix only indicated one. I hadn't even noticed that my high-beam indicator stopped working.

I cut one wire off the stock plug, soldered on a new plug, and now I have working foglights and a working high-beam indicator light. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)