Rear Red Turnsignals Double as Brakes, Increase Brake Lights with Rear Turnsignals Options

[Spoke]

Very nice product! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

Just to be clear, on the combined turn signal/brake setup (video in post 18), what happens when you hit the brakes with the turn signal on, does the turn signal splits back from the brake so you still have a brake light on next to the flashing light?

The brake and turnsignal are locked together and act as one light. If brakes are on and turnsignal active both brake and turnsignal will flash on that side

In your first video, you had EU lenses with red LEDs in the back. Always difficult to see the shade of the light on camera. Was there a big difference betwheen the red of the brake lens portion and the red through the amber portion?

Red LEDs behind amber lenses provide more light output than red LEDs behind red lenses. Keep in mind that the lenses were designed to filter most wavelengths from white incandescent lights. LEDs do not need colored lenses to project their colored light.

The pictures below show my 914 with amber RTS lenses with red LEDs. At night one cannot tell that red LEDs are behind amber lenses.

If not, could the turn signal board be populated with both red and amber LEDs to serve as two functions? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) I definitely love the idea of having more brake lights, but I want to keep my EU lenses and amber turn signal.

There are a couple of issues having red and amber LEDs on the RTS board. To have separate brake and RTS circuits would require an extra wire for the brake. The connection to the vehicle is via BA15S (15mm; Single) bulb base which is a single conductor. Also there would not be enough room for all the LEDs as can be seen in the board layout below.

LEDs with dual or triple colors require individual LEDs to be mounted together like the Broadcom HSMF-A222-A00J1 shown below with red and amber LEDs mounted together. These have very little light output (80mcd) versus the Cree LEDs I use (20000mcd).

[Spoke]

One more video with brakes on.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP-cP001wFY

[Spoke]

I'm thinking of making all the RTS-Brake modules with the extra pigtail to allow both brake and turnsignal to be locked together as RTS/Brake and allow the user to decide if they want this functionality or the original Brake + RTS/Brake. It's just too easy to do this and allow variation of the original.

I would provide lengths of heat shrink tubing to cover the unused connector for safety. The module would look like this EXCEPT the brake connector would not be covered as shown.

Thoughts?

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[Geezer914]

If I understand this correctly, as I have all LED bulbs in my tail lights, I can just run a jumper wire from the brake light post to the turn signal post and both bulbs will light when I apply the brakes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

[Spoke]

If I understand this correctly, as I have all LED bulbs in my tail lights, I can just run a jumper wire from the brake light post to the turn signal post and both bulbs will light when I apply the brakes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

With this module that would be true. The module turns the RTS into RTS/Brake. The module goes between the RTS wire from the vehicle and blends both RTS and brake for the RTS. The module doesn't do anything with the brake wire; just a feed through.

[Spoke]

The connection diagrams have been updated to reflect the extra pigtail for the RTS/Brake + RTS/Brake configuration. These will be put on my website for installation instructions.