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| gereed75 |
Oct 27 2025, 08:43 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,398 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States
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Agree with all -you need correctly timed spark, fuel and compression
my logic is that if the ignition/timing is correct to run cylinders 1/2/3 there is nothing intrinsic to the system that wouldn’t run 4/5/6 (assuming plug wires are correct). So then there is fuel , hence my thought about fuel level, or some other aspect of the non running 4/5/6 carb. Could be fuel delivery to that carb but we were told pressure there was fine. Could be valve timing on 4/5/6 but that seems unlikely because the builder appears to have gotten 1/2/3 bank right. Nothing to suggest that 4/5/6 isn’t correct, but the easiest way to know would be a compression check. My bet is fuel. |
| 930cabman |
Oct 28 2025, 10:33 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,311 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States
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Agree with all -you need correctly timed spark, fuel and compression my logic is that if the ignition/timing is correct to run cylinders 1/2/3 there is nothing intrinsic to the system that wouldn’t run 4/5/6 (assuming plug wires are correct). So then there is fuel , hence my thought about fuel level, or some other aspect of the non running 4/5/6 carb. Could be fuel delivery to that carb but we were told pressure there was fine. Could be valve timing on 4/5/6 but that seems unlikely because the builder appears to have gotten 1/2/3 bank right. Nothing to suggest that 4/5/6 isn’t correct, but the easiest way to know would be a compression check. My bet is fuel. given the information (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
| Retroracer |
Oct 28 2025, 12:38 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 645 Joined: 7-July 13 From: Bend OR Member No.: 16,100 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Joining this a little late, some good recommendations from the tribal elders to check here in the thread; but one item to consider from the initial post:
"...sprayed points on the throttle shaft on 1,2,3 there was a noticeable change in idle" That is going to be a problem. There should be no leakage in the throttle shafts, so whether this is the sole issue for your temp mismatch (doubtful), it will be a neccessary item to address to get to a decent (predictable) tune, unfortunately. - Tony |
| Retroracer |
Oct 28 2025, 12:44 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 645 Joined: 7-July 13 From: Bend OR Member No.: 16,100 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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And:
"...would a bad MSD unit cause one bank to not get spark?" Highly unlikely. The MSD has no idea which spark plug the disty + rotor is pointing at so it doesn't care about banks or individual cylinders. It just goes full on when the points are opened. - Tony |
| scrz914 |
Oct 28 2025, 02:08 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 438 Joined: 21-April 04 From: Santa Cruz, CA Member No.: 1,960 Region Association: Central California |
Joining this a little late, some good recommendations from the tribal elders to check here in the thread; but one item to consider from the initial post: "...sprayed points on the throttle shaft on 1,2,3 there was a noticeable change in idle" That is going to be a problem. There should be no leakage in the throttle shafts, so whether this is the sole issue for your temp mismatch (doubtful), it will be a neccessary item to address to get to a decent (predictable) tune, unfortunately. - Tony Yep. It’ll be a cause for frustration. I’ve already contacted some shops. Waiting to hear back. |
| scrz914 |
Oct 28 2025, 02:21 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 438 Joined: 21-April 04 From: Santa Cruz, CA Member No.: 1,960 Region Association: Central California |
I did have some progress today. Needless to say, getting the spark plug wires oriented correctly made a difference. No more backfires or spitting out the carbs. I was able to get the timing done at 5 BTDC @ 900 rpm without stalling. Did a float level check one the 123 bank and it’s set too high. So I will make that adjustment next. Floats too high mean a thicker shim, correct?
Interesting though. I’m getting better temp readings on the exhaust ports averaging around 500 degrees EXCEPT 2 and 6! They are around 150 degrees. I’m wondering if the plug wires aren’t seating properly in the distributor cap. I’ll take a closer look at that. |
| Root_Werks |
Oct 28 2025, 05:43 PM
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Village Idiot ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,838 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Sounds like you are getting closer to a solution. So cool you have an engine stand to sort all this out before the engine goes in the car.
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| scrz914 |
Oct 28 2025, 06:14 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 438 Joined: 21-April 04 From: Santa Cruz, CA Member No.: 1,960 Region Association: Central California |
Sounds like you are getting closer to a solution. So cool you have an engine stand to sort all this out before the engine goes in the car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) Yeah the stand is making things easier. Especially since I’m learning as I go. I learned a lot about the wiring harness (shout out to Perry Kiehl) and gauges just mocking things up for the test stand console. I wanted to get the engine sorted as best I can before installation. |
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