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| TonyA |
Jul 27 2026, 11:08 AM
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Nachmal ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 715 Joined: 17-November 16 From: Hilltown PA Member No.: 20,596 Region Association: North East States
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So on my windshield washer bottle the neck has a blue tint to it. All of my cars which are all 74 LE cars have a blue tint to the neck. I got a deduction at lake placid for having this blue tint. Was this an original feature to these cars or to later cars in general?
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| NARP74 |
Jul 27 2026, 11:13 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Years of dyed washer fluid use?
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| 914Sixer |
Jul 27 2026, 11:45 AM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,525 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region
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It seems that they were made in colors. I have seen red and green also.
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| L-Jet914 |
Jul 27 2026, 12:17 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 416 Joined: 24-October 12 From: Davis, CA Member No.: 15,080 Region Association: Northern California |
I don't know why they would dock you for a part that is replaced occasionally due to damage or wear. My other thought is what NARP74 stated that the neck may have been dyed from years of standard blue washer fluid use.
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| Cairo94507 |
Jul 27 2026, 01:37 PM
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Michael ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,723 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California
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I have never seen one with a tint like that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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| mepstein |
Jul 27 2026, 01:58 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,839 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Me either
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| wonkipop |
Jul 27 2026, 02:32 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,638 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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i have. its in my garage. to assist tony. jan 25 1974 build - 1.8. basically one of the last of the run of 1.8s from late oct 73 to end of jan 74 and right before the LEs start coming off the line in feb and they start building 2.0s again. blue screw collar. car is orig, unrestored. i am second owner since 1989. i have never changed the bottle and i am 99.9% sure the original owner i bought if off did not. --- looks like that speaking through his a#rse judge owes you some points. have no idea when they might have changed the bottles if they did change them during the production years of the 914, or whether its 74 only or whether its a batch of bottles, but i am no surprised. just one more of the myriad minutia of changes we discovered with 1.8 L jet research. a whole heap of changes come in with the 1.8s from late oct 73 to end of jan 74 and no one has ever worked it out until recentlu because folks were only interested in 2.0s and never took 1.8s seriously. the blue collars might be one of those changes. a quick way to find out would be to examine an early 74 2.0 from aug73 to end of oct 73 build period. EDIT - and no its not dyed from washer fluid. its blue plastic. the bottle is two part construction. |
| worn |
Jul 27 2026, 02:41 PM
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Winner of the Utah Twisted Joint Award ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,632 Joined: 3-June 11 From: Madison, WI and North Bend WA Member No.: 13,152 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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I have a blue one too. |
| mepstein |
Jul 27 2026, 02:55 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,839 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Most of my cars have been early. I totally believe it’s a thing.
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| wonkipop |
Jul 27 2026, 03:34 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,638 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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@TonyA
did a quick trawl through my L jet files. easy to do. these are all trustworthy examples in my view. good to very good to excellent condition original unrestored cars. all 1.8s 12/73 build 02/74 build. this is the white 1.8 held by dr. 914. v low miles - very original. 05/74 build 05/74 build 06/74 build and you got my 01/74 build above. i have more examples all with blue bottles, but above are ones i trust without thinking too much about it. ----- but just to throw a wobble in. here is a 11/74 build. hard to tell for sure. doesn't look blue. but could just be aged. i'd have to dig further but maybe its a change that came in at some point in that late 1973 period. i do have another example of a very very very early 1.8 off the line on file in very original condition. but unfortunately the photos did not include a clear view of the bottle. i think i might go exploring BAT for examples of the 74 2.0L cars built from aug to late oct 73 just to see what they have. could well be this change happens just as the 1.8s start getting built. the 1.8s from dec 73 on sure do look like they have the blue bottles right through to june 74 build. and if so, the 2.0L cars inclusive of the LEs would have been the same. i might go take a look at some 75 L jets i have on file. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) we just might have tripped across another one of those minutia that the 1.8s have plenty of. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
| L-Jet914 |
Jul 27 2026, 03:37 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 416 Joined: 24-October 12 From: Davis, CA Member No.: 15,080 Region Association: Northern California |
i have. its in my garage. to assist tony. jan 25 1974 build - 1.8. basically one of the last of the run of 1.8s from late oct 73 to end of jan 74 and right before the LEs start coming off the line in feb and they start building 2.0s again. blue screw collar. car is orig, unrestored. i am second owner since 1989. i have never changed the bottle and i am 99.9% sure the original owner i bought if off did not. --- looks like that speaking through his a#rse judge owes you some points. have no idea when they might have changed the bottles if they did change them during the production years of the 914, or whether its 74 only or whether its a batch of bottles, but i am no surprised. just one more of the myriad minutia of changes we discovered with 1.8 L jet research. a whole heap of changes come in with the 1.8s from late oct 73 to end of jan 74 and no one has ever worked it out until recentlu because folks were only interested in 2.0s and never took 1.8s seriously. the blue collars might be one of those changes. a quick way to find out would be to examine an early 74 2.0 from aug73 to end of oct 73 build period. EDIT - and no its not dyed from washer fluid. its blue plastic. the bottle is two part construction. Dang it all now you are going to make me go look at mine haha. |
| wonkipop |
Jul 27 2026, 03:51 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,638 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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and...........here is that big $ very original creamsicle that just sold on BAT.
02/74 build. very early LE i don't think i am color blind. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) the hanging judge needed to be taken aside and walked behind a tree and given a good thrashing out of view of the public and then returned to his duties? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
| StarBear |
Jul 27 2026, 04:00 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,359 Joined: 2-September 09 From: NJ Member No.: 10,753 Region Association: North East States
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My Nov. 73 build original car has a plain white one. No color band. How interesting to find this stuff out! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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| TonyA |
Jul 27 2026, 04:03 PM
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Nachmal ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 715 Joined: 17-November 16 From: Hilltown PA Member No.: 20,596 Region Association: North East States
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I do believe that it was a new younger beginner judge. One of the main reasons to show my cars is to educate the judges and the public about the LE cars. And winning of course. Many of these judges do not know much about these cars and they will tell you that. In hind site maybe I should ask if I can to see the score sheets. At Parade concourse they send out the sheets two weeks after. I am not bitter at all but I will reach out so it will not happen to anyone else or myself in the future.
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| NARP74 |
Jul 27 2026, 04:03 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Judges need to update the playbook.
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| wonkipop |
Jul 27 2026, 04:05 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,638 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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ok,now its getting interesting.
bit more harder look through my files. this one is a real early L jet. start of nov 73. very early serial number, first week of production. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) and of interest. a pretty sweet first batch 2.0 from 74. built 09/73 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) i'd have to dig further to be sure about the early 74 models up to some time in nov 73 but looks like they could have been red maybe during that time. i know @StarBear has a nov 73 build 1.8 from early on in first month. he is bound to come back to us on this. but its looking like something is going down and the hanging judge has one foot in the grave. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
| wonkipop |
Jul 27 2026, 04:12 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,638 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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I do believe that it was a new younger beginner judge. One of the main reasons to show my cars is to educate the judges and the public about the LE cars. And winning of course. Many of these judges do not know much about these cars and they will tell you that. In hind site maybe I should ask if I can to see the score sheets. At Parade concourse they send out the sheets two weeks after. I am not bitter at all but I will reach out so it will not happen to anyone else or myself in the future. Thanks for all the comments. winners is grinners and you won anyway. add the points to what you got and call it your score. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) nice looking bumblebee by the way. good to see these LEs getting some real love. fantastic color schemes from back in the day. |
| wonkipop |
Jul 27 2026, 04:16 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,638 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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My Nov. 73 build original car has a plain white one. No color band. How interesting to find this stuff out! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) yeah, well that might accord with that 11/73 i have on file that looks like it was plain vanilla as well. old heinrich at the karmann factory might have found a bin of left over bottles up the back of the factory behind the beer bottles. this stuff would get the old hanging judges in a real mental twist if they wanna go down that road. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
| TRP |
Jul 27 2026, 04:58 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 423 Joined: 2-September 23 From: Morgan Hill, CA Member No.: 27,559 Region Association: None
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Blue nipples... represent!
![]() January 1975 Build date. Born with a 1.8. Unrestored car 82K +/- original miles. |
| Shivers |
Jul 27 2026, 05:47 PM
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