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> 914 V8 drag race video, threw waterpump belt during 1st pass
elocke
post Sep 22 2005, 08:18 PM
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Thanks to Mark Skala and his setup I'm able to post this link.

http://www.rcd-video.com/images/drag-low.mpg

Also he helped me get my car back after spending the night in the NE Dragway parking lot with a missing water pump belt. It either flew off or broke sometime during the run. The right meter under the knee pad indicates 180 (straight up) during the run, but early on the way back I noticed temp gauge pegged and freaked. By the time I pulled over it started to steam. 260 on the mechanical gauge on the manifold! It blew the overflow hose off the filler neck after cutting a slice in the plastic expansion tank cap. I thought for sure I'd cracked a head. Luckily it seems to run fine, but I need to talk to the builder about lurking damage.
Below it my time slip. Bad reaction time and a tranny-saving start on 185's helped only my tranny, unlike an earlier Mustang that delayed things 25 min to clean his off the track.
For some background on the car I think it's in my project post, which I haven't updated in some time but the basics are there. I've been so busy driving it!
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Aaron Cox
post Sep 22 2005, 08:32 PM
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fun!

looked like a nice easy start for 2nd gear....


BTW - stock gears?
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post Sep 22 2005, 08:40 PM
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Yes, stock gears. Renegade heavy axels/CV's. Wish I had a 930 box so I wouldn't have to worry, but I need to preserve mine at least until I try autocross.
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post Sep 22 2005, 08:54 PM
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the 901 just isn't the best on acceleration, is it?

Still (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif) How did you not piss yourself..
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post Sep 22 2005, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE (Hammy @ Sep 22 2005, 07:54 PM)
the 901 just isn't the best on acceleration, is it?

Still (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif) How did you not piss yourself..

its fast if you can spin it to 7 or 8k...

throw some tall gears in that bad boy.....
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post Sep 22 2005, 09:28 PM
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I threw off my water pump belt at my first auto x. Turns out it was not well aligned and continued to have problems until I really got on the alignment issue.
As with you I worried about lurking internal problems the car seemed fine until it blew a head gasket and hydrolocked the motor. IT WAS UGLY, and expensive.
On a more positive note, I don't think any 914 can see the speedometer climb that fast at such high speeds unless it has a V8.
I love to watch speedometer when I downshift to 3rd (4th on normal trans) and floor it.
Good luck and really check carefully the alignment, mine came from Renegade and it was off.

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post Sep 22 2005, 10:11 PM
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Ed, that's a cool video clip. I could almost feel the rush like I get driving mine around. I was watching your tach in the video and how it bounces around. Take a look at this tach video of what I'm doing to my car.
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post Sep 22 2005, 10:23 PM
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So, how do you dampen it?
I have a similar problem.
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post Sep 22 2005, 10:32 PM
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Guy!!!!!!!!!!! Stop teasing us!!!

Very nice.

Ok, now, do tell.... how do we get that ultra-responsive tach?

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post Sep 22 2005, 10:59 PM
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I don't mean to hijack Ed's thread here. However I am interested in how much he watches the tach when drag racing. I don't find the modified stock 914 tach all that useful but I do glance at it on occasion. When drag racing there are other things to be watching so is an accurate tach of much value?

About a year ago I spent a lot of time screwing around with different circuits for the 914 tach. I had something that worked much better than the original circuit but it was a pain to make linear, and the old movement has a lot of mass and there's only so much you can do with it. So I found an aftermarket tach and figured out how to transfer its innards into the old case, then recalibrate it for the stock bezel. I'm going to put it in my car tomorrow to test it out. Maybe I can post a new thread later on the results.
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post Sep 22 2005, 11:23 PM
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Guy, please do (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)
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post Sep 22 2005, 11:41 PM
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Ok, now, do tell.... how do we get that ultra-responsive tach?


simple, install a fast rev'ing V8 engine with plenty of torque (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) seems pretty simple to me, hahahaha

knowing the rpms while doing the 1/4 is very important to ensure you shift at the optimal point...the serious guys install a tach with a bright light that'll flash at a pre-determined rpm...of course I'm just guessing that he was overly watchful to make sure he didn't over-rev and blow something up (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)
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post Sep 23 2005, 04:39 AM
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post Sep 23 2005, 05:23 AM
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Ed,

Nice video! North Hollywood converted my stock tach.........no bouncing needle.

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post Sep 23 2005, 07:28 AM
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What kind of v8 do you have in it?

I think I'll G tech my car when I get it tuned. (though I dont like taking it over 100 very often)

I must say you shift well... My car clunks into gears... lol

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post Sep 23 2005, 09:07 AM
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That was a cool video! Thanks for sharing that! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif)
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post Sep 23 2005, 09:14 AM
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sure gives me a new adoration for the V8 though....sounds pretty (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/drooley.gif)
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post Sep 23 2005, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE (Mueller @ Sep 22 2005, 10:41 PM)
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Ok, now, do tell.... how do we get that ultra-responsive tach?


simple, install a fast rev'ing V8 engine with plenty of torque (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) seems pretty simple to me, hahahaha

knowing the rpms while doing the 1/4 is very important to ensure you shift at the optimal point...the serious guys install a tach with a bright light that'll flash at a pre-determined rpm...of course I'm just guessing that he was overly watchful to make sure he didn't over-rev and blow something up (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

Can you really over-rev a V8? In my experience (stock V8s without race cams and such) The power drops off enough before the redline that it'd feel unnatural to run it all the way up there. A missed shift could still do it I guess.
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post Sep 23 2005, 09:23 AM
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Dat's me big brudda's car! Go, Ed!

Now as soon as I put an LS1 into my Miata, we're going head-to-head!

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post Sep 23 2005, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE (bondo @ Sep 23 2005, 08:18 AM)
Can you really over-rev a V8? In my experience (stock V8s without race cams and such) The power drops off enough before the redline that it'd feel unnatural to run it all the way up there. A missed shift could still do it I guess.

you can over-rev a lawn mower engine (BTDT, got the broken crank to prove it, hahahaha)

there are 2 types of over-revving the motor:

1) the most obvious of taking the motor past it's redline which could cause damage

2) the more important one for drag racing, keeping the motor in it's optimal rpm range...if you know that when you shift there is a 500rpm difference in your gear ratios, you don't want to shift too early or too late..if the motor can safely rev to 8000, yet the torque falls flat at 7000, then you get no benifit taking it to 8K, you are better off shifting early
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