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| Porcharu |
 Nov 1 2005, 02:04 PM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 1,314 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 3,518 Region Association: Northern California  |
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That's a Suby AWD trans converted to RWD with 2 parts <!-- emo&:beer2: -->(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif)<!-- endemo --> Convertor sleeve: AUD$120.00 Blanking plate: AUD$110.00 If bought together, total price AUD$210.00 Looks like a side shift linkage could be tweaked to work. I just bought a 2005 (EJ25) engine and trans (2000 miles) for the 914 - let the fun begin. I just sent an e-mail to sakercars to check on parts availability. Steve. <!-- emo&:beer3: -->(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer3.gif)<!-- endemo --> |
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| d914 |
Nov 1 2005, 02:27 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,331 Joined: 12-July 03 From: Atlanta, ga Member No.: 904 Region Association: South East States |
I'm a little a head of you on that one..been talking to them for awhile...about $500 for the kit with some intructions..been waiting availablitity..
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| banksyinoz |
Nov 1 2005, 03:24 PM
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finally getting back into it Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 17-June 05 From: queensland, aus Member No.: 4,293 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand |
hi guys looks good all info on this would be good as there is a guy over here that would appreciate it he has an 04 sti with six speed but no shift linkages as yet (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)
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| guiltless |
Nov 1 2005, 04:11 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 187 Joined: 7-August 05 From: Dana Point Ca Member No.: 4,552 |
I hear that the cable shifter system off of some Eclipses may work.
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| banksyinoz |
Nov 1 2005, 05:40 PM
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finally getting back into it Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 17-June 05 From: queensland, aus Member No.: 4,293 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand |
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im on there case (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mueba.gif) |
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| Loser_Cruiser |
Nov 1 2005, 07:37 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 407 Joined: 4-April 05 From: Bellingham, WA Member No.: 3,873 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
So were can one got to get these parts? Also how would an eclipses cable shifter work? the transmissions are in the front of those.
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| lapuwali |
Nov 1 2005, 07:49 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743  |
Cables don't care if they're going forwards or backwards, so long as they're long enough. Two cables and a bit of linkage and you can operating a tail shifter with no bushing problems. The Scoupe is another car that has a linkage that's apparently quite adaptable. I'm sure several fwd cars have readily adaptable setups. You can also buy push-pull cables from McMaster-Carr and just use linkage bits off other cars. You might even make the Subaru setup work.
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| fiid |
Nov 1 2005, 07:52 PM
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Turbo Megasquirted Subaru Member Group: Members Posts: 2,827 Joined: 7-April 03 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 530 Region Association: Northern California |
MMMMmmmmm... Six speed.
It's got to be done. |
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| guiltless |
Nov 1 2005, 10:47 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 187 Joined: 7-August 05 From: Dana Point Ca Member No.: 4,552 |
When someone actually does it let me know. It is exactly what I am going to mate to my race 2.5t (when I get that built)
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| Mueller |
Nov 2 2005, 07:54 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None 
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if the kit costs 500 bucks, what benifit do you achieve here besides a supply of new transmissions?
Seems awefully expensive, but without seeing the parts that's kind of unfair to say that (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) |
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| d914 |
Nov 2 2005, 08:10 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,331 Joined: 12-July 03 From: Atlanta, ga Member No.: 904 Region Association: South East States |
Partly:
- newer cheaper trannys with plenty of expensive options - eliminate the adapter plate (some $$) stock clutch, stock and aftermarket fly wheels. - possibly stronger - Took the note from Brad on the main bearing races being bad. Alittle of looking to the future save the good old boxes, tear up the subyies... - high performace 6 speed option, also much stronger.. $3+k - standard shift pattern, looking for a true daily beater, again if I trash one its $500 or less for a replacement in good condition. Possibility of adapting their cv's, haven't gotten that far. - it sounded like a cool idea!!!! still have a good 901 box and will probably hold on to it in reserve and or flexabilty to future projects... - track use 3-4 gear shifts, most often used here, stright up and down, alittle safer than the cross shift of the 901.. |
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| db9146 |
Nov 2 2005, 08:10 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 953 Joined: 21-December 04 From: Atlanta, GA Member No.: 3,315 Region Association: None
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Anyone heard of mounting a Suby trans behind a large 6 (3.2 or 3.6)? If the parts are readily available to convert an AWD to a RWD and the stock WRXs are putting out 300hp, this seems like another potential option to a really expensive 915 or a lot of work on an Audi trans.
Thoughts? |
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| d914 |
Nov 2 2005, 08:28 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,331 Joined: 12-July 03 From: Atlanta, ga Member No.: 904 Region Association: South East States |
Kind of, saker motor sports makes a mid-engine sports racer using subaru engine and trannies. They also subsitude in lexus v-8's and such. For a v-8 or high hp motor i'd look at the sti tranny. 3-4k but little to no modification, 6 speed, and plenty of aftermarket support for the high $$ guys.. billet gears, dog gears , etc...
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| airsix |
Nov 2 2005, 11:32 AM
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I have bees in my epiglotis Group: Members Posts: 2,196 Joined: 7-February 03 From: Kennewick Man (E. WA State) Member No.: 266 |
since the modifiaction cost is about the same as the cost of adapting the 901 to the Suby motor I'd look at this for the following reasons:
-Ben M. |
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| Matt Monson |
Nov 2 2005, 11:39 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 156 Joined: 9-August 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 4,562 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Go drive a 6spd Subaru before you commit your $$$ to one of those trannies. For a street driven car, I would never want one. They are super close ratio and you shift all the time around town. I would take a 5spd out of an RS over an STi 6spd anyday. And I really doubt you can adapt a cable clutch to them either. They are push style, and hydraulic. But it really shouldn't be that hard to make the OE Subaru master and slave cylinder work on it if you are resourceful...
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| Porcharu |
Nov 2 2005, 12:32 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,314 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 3,518 Region Association: Northern California |
Here is everything I know so far,
There was a little confusion with RWD and FWD - they use the term FWD to describe the AWD transmission with the original stuff to drive the rear end removed. Suby 2 wheel drive conversion parts G'day Guy, Yes, we do have the parts to convert the Subaru box to 2wd. The parts for the conversion consist of a machined locking sleeve and a cast aluminium backing plate for the extension housing. Please note that these items will only suit a 5 speed Subaru box, not the 6 speed. Prices for the parts are as follows: Convertor sleeve: AUD$120.00 Blanking plate: AUD$110.00 If bought together, total price AUD$210.00 All prices are in Australian dollars and shipping will be additional to these prices. Please let me know if you would like to go ahead with your order, and don't hesitate to contact us if you have any further questions. Best Regards, Brett Longhurst, Saker Cars Australia www.sakercars.com.au Hi Steve, The parts we have actually convert the AWD box to front wheel drive for use as a transaxle in a rear mount engine configuration. The extension housing is removed from the rear of the gearbox and a blanking plate fitted to centre diff housing. All the torque is sent to the front diff inside the gearbox. Converting the box to RWD is a different matter, which we haven't done before. If you get stuck, we could possibly look into what would be required to do a RWD conversion for you, but I can't make any promises. What application are you using the gearbox in? Best Regards, Brett Longhurst, Saker Cars Australia www.sakercars.com.au |
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| Porcharu |
Nov 3 2005, 12:49 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,314 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 3,518 Region Association: Northern California |
Some more info for those interested.
Hi Steve, Sorry for the misunderstanding... Yes we still have parts in stock. There are three options for shipping: - Economy air mail, 2-4 weeks delivery, $37AUD - Air mail, 3-10 business days delivery, $46AUD - EMS International Courier, priority handling, door to door, $63AUD Let me know which shipping you would prefer, and I will send you an itemised invoice for payment. Once we recieve payment, we will despatch the goods to your address, which you will also need to provide me. Simple as that! So just let me know about the shipping and your delivery address, and I'll forward an invoice on to you. Kind Regards, Brett Longhurst, Saker Cars Australia. www.sakercars.com.au 1 AUD = 0.74 USD today Parts plus air mail = 189.44 USD Anyone interesed? |
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| Brett W |
Nov 3 2005, 01:00 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,856 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None
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The Suby tranny seems like decent option, but why not go with the Audi gearbox. Yes it will require an adapter plate but it is probably a stronger tranny.
As far as the cable shift look at the Honda Accord. You won't be able to use the cables from any FWD car. You will have to get custom length cables. I would really look at spending good cheese on nice cables. Having a good feeling shifter is something that all 914 owners strive for. |
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| Brian Mifsud |
Nov 3 2005, 01:19 PM
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Mechanical Engineer Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 3-March 03 From: Penngrove, CA Member No.: 384 Region Association: None |
Does anyone have any numbers on what the Subaru boxes are rated for in Torque (ft-lbs)?
Having a six speed is nice if you have a peaky high reving engine where it's tough to stay in the torque band. |
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| airsix |
Nov 3 2005, 02:28 PM
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I have bees in my epiglotis Group: Members Posts: 2,196 Joined: 7-February 03 From: Kennewick Man (E. WA State) Member No.: 266 |
More specifically, how much torque can it handle when converted like this so that 100% of the tourque goes to what were previously the front axles. -Ben M. |
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