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Type IV Engine - Some assembly Required |
adammtb |
Dec 19 2005, 09:15 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 68 Joined: 24-September 05 From: Asheville, NC Member No.: 4,856 |
Hey all,
So my brother and I are about to embark on the engine re-assembly of our resto project. Here's what we're starting with. Basically it's the 1.7 from our '72 but we've got new 1.8 pistons and cylinders and all new wear items, seals, bearings. A new for us (used) crank (polished) and we had a valve job done. We also rebuilt the Weber 34 ICTs the car came with. (IMG:http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/2203000-2203999/2203053_12_full.jpg) (IMG:http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/2203000-2203999/2203053_13_full.jpg) |
r_towle |
Dec 19 2005, 09:29 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,576 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
real men dont need instructions...
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Jake Raby |
Dec 19 2005, 09:49 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Looks like you certainly need my rebuild video!
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SirAndy |
Dec 19 2005, 09:53 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,651 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
famous last words ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/av-943.gif) the only thing missing in the "scratching your heads" picture is the fridge with the cold beer. you'll need a *lot* ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) Andy |
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brer |
Dec 19 2005, 09:55 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,555 Joined: 10-March 05 From: san diego Member No.: 3,736 Region Association: None |
Hey, so did you need to mod the case to take the 1.8 Pistons and cylinders?
Are they a slip in fit? |
GWN7 |
Dec 19 2005, 09:58 PM
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King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Only one empty beer shown in the first picture.....that will change... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif) |
Allan |
Dec 19 2005, 09:59 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
Please don't start putting things together just because they fit. If you are trying to adapt a 1.7 or 1.8 motor with larger P/C's, make sure everything will work together.
AND get Jakes video.... |
tat2dphreak |
Dec 19 2005, 09:59 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
yep, the case needs no changes to fit 1.8 cyls... though I don't think you get anything from them... the 1.8 had less HP than the 1.7... 1.7 heads DO need to be opened up to put the 1.8 cylinders in though... |
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Teknon |
Dec 19 2005, 10:02 PM
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The more I learn the dumber i think I am Group: Members Posts: 357 Joined: 10-August 04 From: Denver, Colorado Member No.: 2,505 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Good luck boys.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif) Hey Jake did the new video come out yet?????? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif) |
SGB |
Dec 19 2005, 10:12 PM
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just visiting Group: Members Posts: 4,086 Joined: 8-March 03 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 404 Region Association: South East States |
say I think you better catch those lightweight parts floating off there...
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adammtb |
Dec 19 2005, 10:23 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 68 Joined: 24-September 05 From: Asheville, NC Member No.: 4,856 |
Thanks guys. Indeed we have the minifridge with beer. We did have the heads worked to accept the bigger pistons. Since the cylinders just bolt on to the block there is no need to do any crankcase work. We were under the impression the 1.8 made less hp because it was a version made to meet emissions standards. And, well, a bunch of that stuff was "weight reductioned" out. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
We were also told the 1.8 heads have the largest valves, and it would be a benefit to use those (but we ran out of money and time). Is this true? It seems odd that the 1.8 would have larger valves than the 2.0. |
adammtb |
Dec 19 2005, 10:24 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 68 Joined: 24-September 05 From: Asheville, NC Member No.: 4,856 |
oh yeah, those are some things we've POR15ed |
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Bleyseng |
Dec 19 2005, 10:27 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
No, 1.8L heads have 41x34mm valves as the 914 2.0L heads have 42x36mm stock. Hopefully you are replacing the cam with something better than the stock pos and new lifters to match the cam. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mueba.gif) |
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McMark |
Dec 19 2005, 11:34 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
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Jake Raby |
Dec 19 2005, 11:46 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
And the correct valve springs and retainers to matcyh the added cam ....
everything is dependant upon everything else! |
adammtb |
Dec 20 2005, 07:31 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 68 Joined: 24-September 05 From: Asheville, NC Member No.: 4,856 |
We weren't planning on changing the cam. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif) We had never actually thought to do it. And now she needs to be assembled by thursday. Time to get -----> (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/drunk.gif)
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Bleyseng |
Dec 20 2005, 08:19 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
then you have a time bomb on your hands...... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif)
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blitZ |
Dec 20 2005, 08:26 AM
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Beer please... Group: Members Posts: 2,223 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Lawrenceville, GA Member No.: 4,719 Region Association: South East States |
I'm sure it will be easier the second time.... |
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DNHunt |
Dec 20 2005, 08:56 AM
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914 Wizard? No way. I got too much to learn. Group: Members Posts: 4,099 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Gig Harbor, WA Member No.: 598 |
Yikes, It's a lot of work to have to redo. Do it right the first time and do it once. If you need something soon, find a runner in the area and put it in for a while, then take your time on the rebuild.
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gregrobbins |
Dec 20 2005, 09:14 AM
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Member: Team NARP Group: Members Posts: 1,515 Joined: 23-March 04 From: Arizona Member No.: 1,844 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Careful, the stock cam is designed for the fuel injection system period. To take advantage of the carburators, you should get a cam designed to maximize their potential.
Good luck with the build and keep us updated with news and photos. |
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