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VINTAGE and CLASSIC CAR, Condition Rating Guide |
JeffBowlsby |
Dec 24 2005, 09:09 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,510 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
There is so much variation in describing the conditon of our cars....its very subjective and frustrating to the buyers, because its human nature for sellers to want to exaggerate, then buyers are disappointed. I found this guide on www.automotivemileposts.com, thought it was pretty good. If more people were to refer to this guide, or something similar when selling, it would make communicating much better when buying/selling cars. I think it would also make selling parts much easier to describe, using the same system. Using this rating system, seems to me most 914s are in the lower categories, I can only think of a few 914s in Category 1, which is the way it should be.
RATING DESCRIPTION 1 EXCELLENT/SHOW CAR A masterpiece, this perfect original car is in the same condition it was in when delivered new or better; or a professionally-restored car that has been restored to new or better than new condition. This car is not driven, and is transported to shows in an enclosed trailer. Normally stored in a secured, temperature and humidity controlled environment when not being shown, this car would be expected to come within a point or two of a perfect score when judged by professionals using current criteria. 2 FINE An original car with very low miles that has been meticulously maintained since new; or an older professional restoration that has seen very limited use since restoration. Very close inspection by an expert may detect almost insignificant flaws or wear, but to most enthusiasts the car would look perfect. This car would come within several points of a perfect score when judged, and would receive the top award at a show unless a true Number 1 car were also being judged. 3 VERY GOOD A well-maintained original car that has been driven limited miles over the years; is completely operable with all equipment working as designed, and at first glance may look perfect; or an older restoration that has been driven limited miles since the restoration was completed, and is showing minor wear and tear from being on display at car shows. Closer inspection may reveal minor wear on parts susceptible to showing wear, such as brake and gas pedals, and some thinning of paint and chrome finishes may also be noticed. 4 GOOD Major components function properly, and the vehicle is completely safe to drive but may need minor repairs to mechanical systems. No parts are missing, but this car has been driven on a regular basis and may need a paint job and a few trim pieces rechromed or replaced. Amateur restorations usually fall into this category, as do very old professional restorations that have deteriorated due to use and exposure to the elements. 5 RESTORABLE May or may not be running; everything on the car needs to be restored; may be missing minor parts, but the major components are there. Any body damage due to collision or rust should be minor; some surface rust may appear, but no holes should be present. The car is structurally sound, but needs cosmetic updating to paint, upholstery and top material, as well as repairs to various mechanical components. 6 PARTS CAR Probably not running well, if at all; missing some major as well as minor parts; may have serious body damage due to wreck or rust through. Soft trim and rubber parts are most likely completely ruined from weathering and exposure. This vehicle needs many parts and has deteriorated to the point of not being a good candidate for restoration. Other sources list vehicle condition on a 1-4 or 1-5 scale; we believe the 1-6 scale above allows a better representation of overall vehicle condition, and leaves less to individual interpretation. There doesn't seem to be one specific industry standard at this time. |
rick 918-S |
Dec 24 2005, 09:19 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,463 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
I slightly dissagree. We fix some very serious rust issues on the 914 with some very good quality repair panels. I think the restorable section needs a little expansion. This may only apply to cars that have a broad following and a good parts base.
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markb |
Dec 24 2005, 09:26 PM
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914less :( Group: Members Posts: 5,449 Joined: 22-January 03 From: Nipomo, CA Member No.: 180 Region Association: Central California |
Seems to be a large jump between very good & good. It almost seems like there should be one in between.
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bondo |
Dec 24 2005, 10:05 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
I agree.. What about very nice but non original cars.. the best they can be on there is 4. |
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Bleyseng |
Dec 24 2005, 10:32 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
we need a one in between parts car and restorable. I say "POS" as alot of these are drivers, could be restored or the owner say they will restore them someday but never will.
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anthony |
Dec 25 2005, 12:16 AM
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2270 club Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,107 Joined: 1-February 03 From: SF Bay Area, CA Member No.: 218 |
This grading scale mostly deals with show cars and cars that are close to it. Unfortunately, most 914s would be a 4 or a 5. My 914, which is one of the nicest original cars I've ever seen still only grades to a 3.5 on that scale.
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