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> Best way to get under 914, ramps vs. stands
ventilator01
post Jan 12 2006, 08:55 AM
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I want to get under my car to check a few things, should I get ramps or jack stands or both, right now I just want to look around underneath, but will also need to adust valves soon ( owners manual says every 6k miles) Im sure its been longer than that.
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post Jan 12 2006, 09:15 AM
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Dear, the parts I just sold paid for that part ;)
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I use ramps for the rear and then will use jack stand(s) if I need to remove one of the rear tires (0ne tire is on a ramp and the other side has a jack stand)

The front is too low for ramps so jack stands are my only option.
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post Jan 12 2006, 09:19 AM
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I vote jack stands.

Ramps make me nervous. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif)
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post Jan 12 2006, 09:20 AM
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Gots to be careful of them jackstands. Sometimes they get stuck under the car and end up staying there for a couple of years of "While I'm in there, fix this too".
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post Jan 12 2006, 09:22 AM
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JACK STANDS, GOOD ONES.......YOU'LL BE USING THEM LOTS
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post Jan 12 2006, 09:31 AM
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Ramps fry clutches. I never liked driving up a ramp and worrying about driving off the other side. And the car isn't level.

Jack stands are better. Buy 4, a level car is good.

Joe is right, sometimes they can actually become welded to the bottom of the car and it takes a long time to get your car off them. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)



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post Jan 12 2006, 09:32 AM
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Dear, the parts I just sold paid for that part ;)
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QUOTE (Headrage @ Jan 12 2006, 11:19 AM)

Ramps make me nervous. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif)

That's funny.. Jack stands alone make me nervous (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)

Most times I will use all 4 jack stands (somewhere below the car) regardless of what I am doing. I will also place the unsed wheel and unused ramp under the car as well. kind of like a bunch of backup/safety systems?? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)




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post Jan 12 2006, 10:21 AM
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Ramps in the front, jackstands in the rear.

We need a jackstands smiley! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smoke.gif)
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post Jan 12 2006, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE (Kerrys914 @ Jan 12 2006, 07:32 AM)
QUOTE (Headrage @ Jan 12 2006, 11:19 AM)

Ramps make me nervous. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif)

That's funny.. Jack stands alone make me nervous (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)

Most times I will use all 4 jack stands (somewhere below the car) regardless of what I am doing. I will also place the unsed wheel and unused ramp under the car as well. kind of like a bunch of backup/safety systems?? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)

Actually, I'll put a big one to support the weight and put a smaller one in front of it just in case (I was under the car one day and we had an earth quake). Scared the brown stinky stuff outta me. I do this if I am just working on one side or both. If I have to have all 4 off of the ground and get under it I take it to my office and put it on a lift.
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post Jan 12 2006, 11:50 AM
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Dear, the parts I just sold paid for that part ;)
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QUOTE (Headrage @ Jan 12 2006, 12:45 PM)


(I was under the car one day and we had an earth quake).

It's funny how that thought doesn't event enter into my head here on the East Coast...having to worry about an earthquake while working on my car

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) That would have scared the (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/stromberg.gif) out of me too.

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post Jan 12 2006, 12:13 PM
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I am using jack stands in back, but came up with a very stable solution for the front. Made the whole car more stable.
Put two cinder blocks side by side and put a pier block on the cinder blocks at their center point. In the cross of the pier block cut and fit two each 2" x 4"s about 6" long so they lock into the top cross of the pier block. You will need to cut a "U" shaped section out of each two by four at their center. Then turn the "u"'s toward each other and press the two by fours together. Cut one more 2' x 4" about 6" long and cut a 2" hole in the center of this 2" x4". Nail this to the two by fours in the cross of the pier block. When you lower the car , put that little round donut at the corner bottom of the car right in the 2" hole of the top two by four. Puts the car about 17"-18" high in the front . Very stable.
With two of these up front and jack stands in the rear, I feel a lot more secure when under there pulling and tugging on things.
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post Jan 12 2006, 12:20 PM
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Kerry... Im 19...

I've lived in modesto cali all my life...

The most earthquake i've ever felt was someone asking me "did you just fart?" (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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post Jan 12 2006, 12:27 PM
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Thx for all the advice,
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post Jan 12 2006, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE (Andyrew @ Jan 12 2006, 01:20 PM)
Kerry... Im 19...

I've lived in modesto cali all my life...

The most earthquake i've ever felt was someone asking me "did you just fart?" (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

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Hey cool, another Modestoian. I lived there for 5 years, and moved east in 1989.

Aside from the occational swinging lights, or ripples in the pool, earthquakes were not a big deal in the valley.

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post Jan 12 2006, 01:41 PM
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I use ramps, but never drive the car up onto them. I jack up the car and put the ramps under the tires. Very stable. I never really liked a car just on jackstands (and we get earthquakes here).

The real answer to the original question is: a lift. Once you use one, you'll never want to use anything else. I can't afford a complete 4-post lift, and don't really have the room for one, anyway, so I may end up getting a Kwik Lift. Eventually...
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post Jan 12 2006, 01:48 PM
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Four jack-stands are a requirement for admission to the club. You might as well get them, because you'll need them sooner or later.
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post Jan 12 2006, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE (riverman @ Jan 12 2006, 11:48 AM)
Four jack-stands are a requirement for admission to the club.

I think the count should be more like seven.
Four under the car and three to hold the drivetrain once it's removed.

You can never have too many!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post Jan 12 2006, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE (lapuwali @ Jan 12 2006, 02:41 PM)
I use ramps, but never drive the car up onto them.  I jack up the car and put the ramps under the tires.  Very stable.

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I'm afraid of driving off the back of the ramp so jack it up and place the ramp under the tire.

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post Jan 12 2006, 11:10 PM
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I have 4 jackstands, 2 floor jacks and 2 ramps. I use the ramps the most. Not all teeners will be able to be driven up ramps. I am lucky as I can either drive up in front or back up in the rear. Once you have done it a few times, it is no big deal to drive (or backing) up on the ramps. The first few times are a bit gut wrenching though. Eddy
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post Jan 12 2006, 11:12 PM
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Mine is a bit different for your usual ride....but I can lift it up with my motorcycle jack...get under it and beat the hell out of the starter.....it dont work tho, it still wont start..
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