 Shall I say... 3.6?, my conversion thread ... |
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| SirAndy |
  Jan 21 2006, 10:19 PM
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Resident German  Group: Admin Posts: 41,640 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California  |
alright, time to start a conversion thread. i picked up the engine a month ago and started with the prepping of the tub today.
didn't get too much stuff done, oh well, babysteps ... the ToDo-List (striked-out items are done!): ============================================ i'm going to ============================================ ETA: soon enough to run a full season for UPDATE: current todo list can be found HERE: todo list as of 04/25/07 This post has been edited by SirAndy: Jun 4 2012, 12:04 PM |
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| McMark |
Apr 27 2007, 03:23 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(db9146 @ Apr 27 2007, 08:45 AM)  Glad to hear you're going to run a cover over the lines.....thoughts of hot oil spewing all over the inside of the car with you in it sounds too much like a Fry Daddy for me to be too comfortable w/o one. Sort of like a Fry Andy instead!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) That reminds me of the cornballer! (IMG:http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/c/c9/Arrested_Development_-_The_Cornballer2.jpg) RIP Arrested Development. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
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| John |
Apr 27 2007, 03:54 PM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 27 2007, 12:11 PM) my guess is no more or less than the factory rubber oil-lines. interestingly enough, none of the typical raceshop outlets mention anything about "fire resistant" with their braided stainless oil-lines either. both use a similar elastomer as the main component, so i'm not sure a thin layer of stainless mesh on the outside would help much in case of direct contact with flames. both, the braided lines and the plain lines have the same max. operating temperatur (~300F), i'm guessing both will simply melt the elastomer when exposed to much higher temperatures (flames) ... also keep in mind that both types have another inner layer of braided mesh sandwiched between the inner rubber and the outer rubber ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif) Andy Maybe it's just me, but I like to use hydraulic hose. In -12 size it is $4.55/foot. Attached image(s) 
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| SirAndy |
Apr 27 2007, 04:02 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,640 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(John @ Apr 27 2007, 01:54 PM) Maybe it's just me, but I like to use hydraulic hose. In -12 size it is $4.55/foot. i dunno, i would assume that by the time you see 12000 psi in your cooler circuit, your engine has probably already turned to dust ... seems like overkill to me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif) Andy |
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| John |
Apr 27 2007, 04:22 PM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 27 2007, 02:02 PM) Yup. So does a 3.6 in a 914... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) I like to call it "peace of mind". Your car is looking good. Do you have an ETA? |
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| thesey914 |
Apr 27 2007, 04:23 PM
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Senior Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,155 Joined: 1-January 03 From: Staffordshire -England Member No.: 66  |
Although the burst value of the hose is very high, what kind of pressure causes the hose to blow off the barbed fitting?
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| SirAndy |
Apr 27 2007, 04:49 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,640 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(thesey914 @ Apr 27 2007, 02:23 PM) Although the burst value of the hose is very high, what kind of pressure causes the hose to blow off the barbed fitting? the blue hose is rated for up to 250 psi ... meaning, it's still safe to operate at 250 psi. should be plenty ... if not, you'll read about it here first ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) Andy |
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| SirAndy |
Apr 27 2007, 04:51 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,640 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(John @ Apr 27 2007, 02:22 PM) Your car is looking good. Do you have an ETA? yeah, i do. but that SOB keeps changing! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Andy PS: i *really* want to drive it down to the AR. so, that's what, 5 more weeks? |
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| SirAndy |
May 5 2007, 07:42 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,640 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
while i was in there ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
the wiring for the gauges was always a bit messy (the 911 dash requires rerouting some of the original wiring) so i decided now was the time to do it right. i got a bunch of electrical connectors and added a connector (9 pin) to each gauge. then i extended the existing wires and added connectors as well. now i have a quick disconnect for each gauge and plenty of wire length to take them out of the dash. i used color coded wires where possible (out of a old harness) and put labels on all the important wires and numbered the connectors. before:   gauges wired up:    cluster with extended wires and connectors:  now i can reinstall the dash and put in the new windshield ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Andy |
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| McMark |
May 13 2007, 08:03 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Just trying out my new smilie. |
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| r_towle |
May 13 2007, 08:06 PM
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its not a real car...its all AI
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| McMark |
May 24 2007, 02:49 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Serial Number 64R01165
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| McMark |
May 24 2007, 07:28 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Engine tin finished and ready for powdercoating ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)
I started with a set of patrick motorsports reproduction 914-6 engine tin. I knew it would have to be modified to fit the 3.6L, but i have to say, for the price i paid, i was very disappointed with the overall quality of the tin. - First, it arrived all bend and banged up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) - Second, the edges were just left unfinished after cutting the metal, so all pieces had razor sharp edges. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif) I had to file down all the tin pieces before we even got to work on making it fit ... - Third, the fitting is poor. On one side, there's a 1/4" gap where the two pieces are supposed to butt against each other! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) Patrick says that the tin will fit the 3.6L with some minor modifications. I'm not sure what they're smoking, but it must be pretty strong stuff. We had to do some very creative sheetmetal bending, warping, hammering, welding, drilling and riveting ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) Andy (from McMark's shop) And here's the end result:         |
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| SirAndy |
May 24 2007, 09:59 PM
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| PRS914-6 |
May 24 2007, 10:02 PM
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Excellence Magazine Project 914 3.6 Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,278 Joined: 20-May 06 From: Central California Member No.: 6,031 Region Association: None  |
Andy, it looks good. It's a lot of work to do it right. It took me a weekend to get mine done. You can use the 993 OEM sheetmetal in the back if you have it. A little trimming and a few tack welds. It allows the air flow to go the proper direction and not bleed out the back. Look at the bottom piece of this picture.....
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| SirAndy |
May 24 2007, 10:17 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,640 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(PRS914-6 @ May 24 2007, 08:02 PM) Andy, it looks good. It's a lot of work to do it right. It took me a weekend to get mine done. You can use the 993 OEM sheetmetal in the back if you have it. A little trimming and a few tack welds. It allows the air flow to go the proper direction and not bleed out the back. Look at the bottom piece of this picture..... hey paul, yes, i used the two original side pieces in the back. i just didn't put them in the picture as they're not part of the 914-6 sheetmetal. i cut both of those pieces to be individual and didn't tack them onto the 914-6 sheetmetal. that part went smooth. which i can't say about the rest of the tin. 3 days worth of custom fab work in that tin! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Andy PS: i used the stock 993 grommet holes for the plug wires and the sensor wires and just rivited them into the sheetmetal. i'm also using the patrick throttle cable, which allowed me to use the existing throttle cable hole in the tin. no need to add another 1" hole ... PPS: how was the initial fitting on your tin? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
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| PRS914-6 |
May 24 2007, 11:28 PM
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Excellence Magazine Project 914 3.6 Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,278 Joined: 20-May 06 From: Central California Member No.: 6,031 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ May 24 2007, 09:17 PM) Andy, I'm assuming you are asking how it fit when the engine went in the car? The answer to that is "no problems" The rubber around the perimeter of the engine bay connected perfectly and the gap beteeen the tin and rear suspension arm areas were equal so I was pretty happy when it was all test fit. BTW, I used a Rich Johnson mount and it allows some adjustment but it didn't really need any. Now if you are asking how it fit on the engine when I first bought it, that is a different story. Like you it was 2 days of work.....The side pieces were the only ones that were close. |
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| SirAndy |
May 30 2007, 02:35 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,640 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
got some more stuff done today ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
McMark installed the new koni (yellow) adjustable shocks while i was grinding away in the engine comp. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)  we also installed the transmission portion of the JWest Sideshift-Kit, a separate thread about that can be found here: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=72363 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) in addition, i (wet) sanded down my carbon-fiber dashboard with 500 grit to clean up some of the ugly spots that have bugged me ever since i got it from getty ... it's going to the paintshop tomorrow to get cleaned, sprayed with a few coats of clear and polished ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) and lastly, i started with the prepp-work for the firewall portion of the JWest Sideshift-Kit. more about that later ... i'm tired now ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yellowsleep[1].gif) Andy |
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| McMark |
May 30 2007, 02:53 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
It appears Andy had a 100% failure rate on his used old shocks. The fronts LITERALLY fell apart during removal (kinda like the rears). Those puppies were not doing ANYTHING near what they should have been. Andy is gonna be ripping up the AX course at the WCR. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
We are very close! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif) |
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| SirAndy |
May 31 2007, 11:33 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,640 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
today was fuelpump day ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif)
the 993 fuelpump does not suck, so it needs to be mounted close to the tank and *underneath*. first pic is the stock 993 fuel line. all i need is the fitting to the pump, so i cut off the rest and made a nice flared end. original line:  cut off part i'm going to use:  then i mounted the pump to the fuel-door and added the hard lines and the wiring:  backside:  and finally, mounted in the car:  and from the inside of the car:  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) Andy |
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| So.Cal.914 |
May 31 2007, 11:45 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
I like the fuel pump setup, Very Trick.
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