914-6 Conversion Shift Linkage Question, Straight or Bent? Let the opinions fly |
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914-6 Conversion Shift Linkage Question, Straight or Bent? Let the opinions fly |
IronHillRestorations |
Feb 14 2006, 01:47 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,716 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
OK, OK! Since I don't have the original measurements I've used to make my jig, which was longer ago than I remember, more like 10 yrs. If I remember correctly there's about 1 1/8" offset from the shifter bushing boss in the firewall to the console on the transmission. So YES, you do want bends in the shift rod to account for this offset. If you don't have bends in it, the firewall bushing acts like a fulcrum and forces the linkage over to the side, and makes it harder to engage the reverse/1st gate.
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dimitri |
Feb 15 2006, 03:16 PM
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dimitri Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: 16-March 05 From: Cupertino,CA Member No.: 3,769 |
Looking at my original 914-6 and the 74 6 conversion, both with later
side shifter transmissions and stock original heat exchangers, the shift rod has to be straightened with this combination of parts, because the heater section of the 914-6 reaches right up under the oill return tubes. This makes it necessary to run the shift rod on top of the heat exchanger. On the other hand if your exhaust system does not reach into this area and when attached to the engine you have a clear view/path from the exit on the firewall to the shift point, rebending is not necessary. Dimitri |
porschetub |
Oct 31 2016, 12:03 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,697 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
My shifter rod had a bend around 150 mm from the end of the gearbox shifting was ok then worse ,I know my 911 mounts are shit and have gone soft,removed the rod and the end literally fell of due to a crappy brazed weld.
New mounts on the way and plan to deal to the rod,don't think my gearbox can handle to many more bad shifts (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) . Maybe I will pm Perry for his master plan?,I don't think straight is right for a sideshifter. |
gereed75 |
Oct 31 2016, 06:42 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,244 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States |
I believe it is straight but optimally will need a second joint in the back to eliminate any binding as it enters the shift console.
Take a look at the tangerine shift kit. |
gandalf_025 |
Oct 31 2016, 01:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,453 Joined: 25-June 09 From: North Shore, Massachusetts Member No.: 10,509 Region Association: North East States |
I know you are talking side shifter..
but here is an original 6 tail shift rod that was cut to use in a car with an early 1965 engine. Pretty serious mod, but it shifted fine. |
SirAndy |
Oct 31 2016, 01:51 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,625 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Holy thread necromancer!
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Also, whatever you do, just make sure the start and end of the rod are in the same plane. If they aren't you'll get binding ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
jim912928 |
Oct 31 2016, 02:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,485 Joined: 8-January 04 From: Granger, IN Member No.: 1,536 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I didn't have to modify mine at all. 75 914, Rick Johnson mount, 3.2l, stock 901 side shift.
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horizontally-opposed |
Oct 31 2016, 03:28 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,431 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
Have a 73 side-shift car with a 2.2 six.
John Holleran, who did the conversion and has done a dozen or so, mentioned he built the shift rod by using the forward shaft from a 911 (the one that goes into the interior) and the back of a 914 shift rod. It looks straight to these eyes, and the welding is beautiful. I was worried about the shifting, as my 914 was one of the better shifting 901s I had tried (or more likely just familiar). It shifts better now than it did. YMMV! |
altitude411 |
Oct 31 2016, 04:29 PM
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I drove my 6 into a tree Group: Members Posts: 1,306 Joined: 21-September 14 From: montana Member No.: 17,932 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Holy thread necromancer! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) Well it is Halloween. |
porschetub |
Nov 1 2016, 07:36 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,697 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
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jim912928 |
Nov 1 2016, 08:53 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,485 Joined: 8-January 04 From: Granger, IN Member No.: 1,536 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
stock bend...non-modified from my 75...shifts perfect with no interference with heat exchangers.
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Mark Henry |
Nov 1 2016, 09:40 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
My rod is straight...but I did a Marky do copy roo....sort of like a tangerine.
In other words because I'm a cheap ass so I copied it from a pic. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
mb911 |
Nov 2 2016, 05:00 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,834 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I don't remember modding my last 6 conversion.. I already powdercoated mine in prep for the new install.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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mlindner |
Nov 2 2016, 07:47 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,518 Joined: 11-November 11 From: Merrimac, WI Member No.: 13,770 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I'm still working on my conversion and this has been in the back of my mine...I'm going to build a jig. Does anyone has a extra side shifting rod I can cut up to help the process, will pay shipping. If so, and you like the end results I will modify yours at no charge. Best, Mark
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rgalla9146 |
Nov 10 2016, 09:14 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,550 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
This is what I did.
It's an assembly of four pieces. I used the front and rear of a side shift rod with a length of rear shift grafted into the middle. Done in a fabed' jig. This is for a 6 conversion with stock heat exchangers. I used the curved sections of the rear shift rod to create an offset to clear the HEs. I'll do the same for the 915 installation which has a 916 replica side shift mechanism. Attached thumbnail(s) |
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