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> starting the tube V8 car, no turning back now
byndbad914
post Feb 13 2006, 05:35 PM
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Disassembled the beast over the past couple of weeks in Orange and then AJ (the guy building the tube chassis) did some minor cutting (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif) I am getting pretty excited about the project though, should be cool if every crazy idea I have works out... never really know until you start piecing the puzzle together.

All things work on paper, only some things work in reality (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

If anyone really cares I will continue to post pics as the progress moves along... here is some starting pics.

BTW, more pics are on my website in the chassis link I have started.

Here is a shot of week1


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post Feb 13 2006, 05:35 PM
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week2


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post Feb 13 2006, 05:37 PM
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week 3... the "minor cutting". BTW, those crap-ass Corbeau seats are gonna be gone - have UltraShields on their way, s/b on my front door roughly Wed.
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post Feb 13 2006, 05:38 PM
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post Feb 13 2006, 05:39 PM
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) Weird picture (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)

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post Feb 13 2006, 07:01 PM
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Hell yes. Post pictures untill your eyes fall out. We will look. At least I will look (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/shocked[1].gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/shocked[1].gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/shocked[1].gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/shocked[1].gif)
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post Feb 13 2006, 07:07 PM
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BTW, more pics are on my website in the chassis link I have started.


I cant seem to find the pictures. Where are they??? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)
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post Feb 13 2006, 07:10 PM
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yeah, keep us posted...
looks like a lot of fun!
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post Feb 13 2006, 07:34 PM
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/thumb3d.gif) Where's the shop where you're doing the work?
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post Feb 13 2006, 07:37 PM
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Wow! That is wicked! I love it, keep posting pictures! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif)
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post Feb 13 2006, 07:43 PM
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Tim,
That looks really similar to where I was a year ago. Aren't plasma cutters great. Glad to hear you are going to get rid of those seats. I remember you talkin about how shitty they were.

What are you going to do for suspension design? Go ahead and center seat it while you are in there.
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post Feb 13 2006, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE (Brett W @ Feb 13 2006, 06:43 PM)
Tim,
That looks really similar to where I was a year ago.  Aren't plasma cutters great.  Glad to hear you are going to get rid of those seats.   I remember you talkin about how shitty they were.  

What are you going to do for suspension design?  Go ahead and center seat it while you are in there.

getting rid of them?

color me interested!
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post Feb 13 2006, 09:46 PM
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Aaron better fix his email.

acox914@comcast.net

Wow. Some minor cutting, huh. How much weight are you shaving off? And I agree with the center seat idea. You're already stuck with super production in SCCA. A middle seat won't boost you out of your class.

Unless you plan on driving it on the street.

Can't wait to see welds.
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post Feb 14 2006, 12:45 PM
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Thanks for the interest... it should be quite a project over the next couple of months...

As for more pix, forgot to include my website address - www.geocities.com/byndbad914
If anyone has problems accessing it, please send me a PM. I think those free sites only allow so many "views"?? but I am not sure.

the place doing the work is The Baja Shop in Orange. I know, it isn't going to be a baja, but AJ has done some pretty insane work, his welding is unreal (his MIG literally looks like TIG for instance and I have never seen MIG that good), and he has done a couple of 914 cage cars in the past.

Aaron, I will PM you. Those seats were bought new and just sat in the car and the covering deteriorated, but they could be recovered and would be really nice. They fit the car well and I was going to recover them, but then wanted to add a seat I could add a helmet halo to for the track. I was really pissed that the covering rotted off though...

I moved the seats inboard about 2" - basically to maintain symmetry and line up straight with the pedals, which also meant messing with the steering column mount to straighten it too... I will be keeping 2 seats in the car with the same configuration. The idea is stock doors, stock dash, put door panels back on it with GT style door handles and so forth for a somewhat stock interior look (and to have windows that roll up/down). And on club days I can take the fiance out and give her motion sickness again (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/barf.gif) The last day at the track I took her for about 5 laps, the last one I looped it in turn 4 at Big Willow (first time I have ever spun on the track - just her luck) and we came in. She was about to hurl (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

Suspension is the RSR fronts I already have and reinforced rear trailing arms. I know, I know, the whole trailing arm thing will open up a series of "why would you do that" posts.
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post Feb 14 2006, 12:50 PM
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If everything else is reinforced or stronger, then it makes sense to reinforce the trailing arms...



Cool car! I wish I had the time and money to do what your doing!!!

Good luck! wcc 07?

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post Feb 14 2006, 01:10 PM
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byndbad914,

if you go to "my controls" at the top of the page, you can enter the address of your website, and it'll appear as an extra button (like e-mail and PM) below all your posts

if you have trouble with your regular website, you can also use your "blog" here on the clubsite (click the "blog" button underneath your own posts)
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post Feb 14 2006, 03:21 PM
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thanks for the help Jeroen, I added the URL and checked the www button and it seems to work.

As for WCC '07, I am more hopeful to have it done closer to '06! Not that I will probably be able to make the trek up to Oregon. We will see.

Andyrew, I wish I had the money to do what I am doing as well. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) Just kinda gotta pick your poison I guess - when I was 16 my dad looked at me and said, "If it meant you would have to wear a Tshirt with holes in it and the same pair of jeans everyday, you would if that's what it took to have a Countach" (mid-80s when the Countach was the (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/stromberg.gif) - just saw a TopGear episode about the exact thing a while back). That was one of those funny conversations to which I replied "Yes" and have since managed to live up to it (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)

Talked to AJ at lunch, the rear section is now officially gone, he worked the firewall area a bit more and the 2x3 chromoly will hopefully be in the shop by Friday
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post Feb 14 2006, 03:30 PM
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06? really? Im hoping to have mine done by 06... or... at least in paint, and some tubes in it, and a little lighter... and some other stuff..

yet... I keep changing things... lol

I've had my car since I was 15, Im 19 now, and my 4 year anniversery of owning the car is coming up...

I give you major props for having an 06 goal!

are you planning on attending the wcc 06?

Many nice cars will be finishing about then!

(I only wish we could drive on the track... )

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post Feb 17 2006, 08:12 PM
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Some more (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sawzall-smiley.gif) work to the car this last week. Just a little cleanup of the rear. You can go to this link on my website to see more photos, but I will include one teaser.

http://www.geocities.com/byndbad914/update_1.htm

Looks like 2"x3" chromoly may not even be available, so if I have to go to round bar for the tube car, I am going to have to give up on making the body removable and just tie everything together really well... it would be much nicer to have a framed car since the additional tubing becomes merely for safety and not rigidity, but oh well.

Oh yeah, and when we get the basic frame laid out and see where the engine will ultimately sit, if there is room to do it, I am going to go with 935-style rear trailing arms... better adjustability and stability in adjustment, and less toe gains/losses through travel if I understand correctly. But this assumes I will have room to build some inner camber boxes and not hit the dry sump pump or alternator. Just have to use lotsa butter I guess, maybe a shoehorn, some KY and talk really dirty to it...


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post Feb 17 2006, 08:19 PM
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is this an ex-Otto's car?
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