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320I brake Upgrade., Hot brakes |
PatW |
Feb 19 2003, 09:33 PM
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Wassup? Group: Benefactors Posts: 565 Joined: 19-February 03 From: Rocklin, CA Member No.: 317 Region Association: Northern California |
Who here has done the BMW 320I brake upgrade for their 914?
Opinions?. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mueba.gif) |
Sammy |
Feb 19 2003, 09:42 PM
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. Group: Members Posts: 1,190 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Orange, Ca Member No.: 178 |
I've done it to two 914s, works pretty darn good.
I also took the prop valve out and replaced it with a tee. |
Bleyseng |
Feb 19 2003, 10:56 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I did the conversion and like the results. It is not earthshaking but alittle better. Pads make a difference too.
Geoff |
Dave Cawdrey |
Feb 19 2003, 11:06 PM
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Dumbo going poop, Daddy :) Group: Members Posts: 818 Joined: 22-January 03 From: Seattle, WA USA Member No.: 182 |
I had them on for the drive home, w/ a bad MC to boot!! I think they were my only working stopping device when I drove her home...
YIKES (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
StratPlayer |
Feb 20 2003, 01:30 AM
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StratPlayer Group: Members Posts: 3,278 Joined: 27-December 02 From: SLC, Utah Member No.: 27 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Just had it done on my 914, in the process of braking it in,,, so far it seems ok, glad I had it done.
I purchased a kit from Paul Allen,, great kit with everything in this kit for a good install. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
Dave Cawdrey |
Feb 20 2003, 01:44 AM
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Dumbo going poop, Daddy :) Group: Members Posts: 818 Joined: 22-January 03 From: Seattle, WA USA Member No.: 182 |
I got the same set, but back when they were 350; painted, shipped, etc. Also got my 916 bumps from him.
Only problem is the so called caliper paint doesn't seem to be real caliper paint. A couple drops on the paint, and she's flaking off like acetone on paint. Caliper paint should stand up to a few brake bleedings... Oh well. Prolly coulda had it done for 1/2 price locally (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
bernbomb914 |
Feb 20 2003, 11:23 AM
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one of the oldest Farts on this board Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,873 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 36 |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I am going to put Volvo calipers on, they dont require machining and are 4 pot with more disc area. got the tees from Rich. they should bolt on with a washer to adjust the space on the rotor.
Bernie (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
Sammy |
Feb 20 2003, 03:34 PM
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. Group: Members Posts: 1,190 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Orange, Ca Member No.: 178 |
Bernie, what MC are you going to run with the volvo calipers? I had a pair sitting in my garage for a few years (just threw them out last month) and the only reason I didn't install them was because I figured the 19mm MC wouldn't be enough to run them.
Oh, and are you going to grind off the outside edge of the pads, or just let them hang over the edge? I wasn't too concerned with it, but I probably would have ground off the pads to fit just for something to do. |
PatW |
Feb 20 2003, 09:33 PM
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Wassup? Group: Benefactors Posts: 565 Joined: 19-February 03 From: Rocklin, CA Member No.: 317 Region Association: Northern California |
I just ordered a set from Dave at GPR for 299$ with all the hardware. Seemed like a safe bet to go with them. Now I got to break down and buy a Powerbleeder also. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Pat |
bernbomb914 |
Feb 21 2003, 12:05 AM
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one of the oldest Farts on this board Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,873 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 36 |
I will be using the 19 MC and yes I will leave the pads alone I will let the forum know how it works. There should be no machining required. It should be a much cheaper conversion.
Bernie (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
jimrbob |
Feb 21 2003, 01:35 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 13-January 03 Member No.: 136 |
With the 320i upgrade, 19mm MC, does anyone else feel like I do...that the fronts work too well. Seems they lock up quite a bit too soon for rears, so I am considering a proportioning valve UP FRONT...anyone else have this experience?
Powerbleeder works awesome by the way. High pedal. Jim (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pain30.gif) |
Brad Roberts |
Feb 21 2003, 01:39 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Remove the stock rear brake bias Jim and install a tee. You now need to "even" out the amount of braking force in your car. Once you do this... the car will really stop.
B |
jimrbob |
Feb 21 2003, 01:43 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 13-January 03 Member No.: 136 |
Sorry, forgot to add that I did remove prop valve from rear and installed tee.
Jim (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pain30.gif) |
Brad Roberts |
Feb 21 2003, 01:51 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Good luck. LOL That is what I do to "even" out the pressure when running Turbo 944 calipers on the front and SC fronts on the rear.
I have said all along that the BMW kits dont work all that well. Locked up wheels leave you with NO control of the vehicle. B |
seanery |
Feb 21 2003, 08:16 AM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
When I first upgraded my MC to 19mm (stock brakes) I used to lock up the fronts all the time, almost rear ended a couple people.
Here's the poop: If you have skinny tires that's too much brake and it will lock up too easy, switch to 195 or 205 and you'll have better luck with the 19mm MC. |
mr914 |
Feb 21 2003, 10:55 AM
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914 Hillbilly Group: Members Posts: 576 Joined: 11-January 03 From: Lincoln NE Member No.: 131 Region Association: None |
Volvo calipers? Off of what year and model?
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thesey914 |
Feb 21 2003, 01:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,155 Joined: 1-January 03 From: Staffordshire -England Member No.: 66 |
QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Feb 20 2003, 11:51 PM) when running Turbo 944 calipers on the front and SC fronts on the rear. I have said all along that the BMW kits dont work all that well. Locked up wheels leave you with NO control of the vehicle. B Brad, when I replaced the front discs on my 944 they were the same as the 911. The Turbo callipers are the same as the C2, I know the 944 (NA) struts are coil sprung but are the callipers the same as the 911 -89? If so I'm sure I have a pair in my garage. My BMW callipers would lock up the fronts way too early...I hope when I install the "T" piece it helps. Being midengined the weight nearer the back should mean the rears can handle more pressure. |
campbellcj |
Feb 21 2003, 02:14 PM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,545 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California |
Another variable in effective brake bias is your pads. If you're running a very aggressive sport/race pad (high coefficient of friction) at one end, and a 30-year old street pad on the other end, be prepared for some interesting behavior. If your fronts seem to have too much bias even w/o the stock prop valve, you may be able to fine tune things a bit by putting a different pad in the back.
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bernbomb914 |
Feb 21 2003, 03:14 PM
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one of the oldest Farts on this board Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,873 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 36 |
volvo calipers
Volvo calipers? Off of what year and model? Mine are 85 240 GL calipers |
bernbomb914 |
Feb 21 2003, 03:17 PM
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one of the oldest Farts on this board Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,873 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 36 |
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