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> Any possibility for a real club track day?, Since the wcc's not having one...
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post Mar 14 2006, 02:23 PM
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Hey Andy,

Are you planning to take the 3.6 to Laguna for the Vintage races this September?

The guy in the 2.8 914 did pretty good in the big bore class.

You'd really give the Mustangs and Corvette alot of grief!

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post Mar 14 2006, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE (Andyrew @ Mar 14 2006, 12:22 AM)
Yup...

But were Porsche owners right?

That means were loaded, and intelegent, right?

(thats what my gf says... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) )



A sponser/s would be optimum..

WWOTC (west coast open track challenge)


I dono.. Im getting lonely here sanding all my bondo and fiberglass so Aaron wont hate HPH flares so much.. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

fix your acronym! and get sanding! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 14 2006, 03:25 PM
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Hey Andyrew... Keep thinking big on this... I would love to see all of it! It will take an event as big as WCC to get all the guys you want together in one place at one time. Maybe WCC 07??? Never too early to start planning if you wanna pull it all off!
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post Mar 14 2006, 03:33 PM
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I know theres a bunch of other clubs that hold events...

but why cant we?

I would like to see a huge track event at 07 for norcal...

but mostly I would like to see something for 06...

I figure 30 cars would be perfect..
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post Mar 14 2006, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE (Andyrew @ Mar 14 2006, 01:33 PM)
but why cant we?

- insurance
- track rent
- experienced staff
- experienced instructors

just to name a few. putting on a SAFE event is no minor task ...


otto & drew did a great job of keeping the WCC trackday smooth and safe, but it takes money, time, experience and commitment.

you got any of that, andrew?
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post Mar 14 2006, 04:39 PM
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I agree with Andy 100%

I organized a DE event for the PCA California Central Coast Region and it was alot of work and we couldn't even fill the event with our club members. We ended up opening it up to other clubs just so we wouldn't lose money.

My recommendation is to get a group of 914s that seriously want to get on the track and attend one of many existing opportunties.

I bet Hank Watts would do a 914 only grid at the BW DE in April if we had 20 or more members signup.... If we get enough interest, I'll ask him.

Also, I'm in for the SCCA Vintage event at Laguna Seca so that's 1 of 20 for a 914 grid this September!!
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post Mar 14 2006, 04:43 PM
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Vintage event wouldnt let a v8 run would they?


I got commitment andy.. thats about it.. lol

But I do see what your saying... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)
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post Mar 14 2006, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE (race914 @ Mar 14 2006, 12:23 PM)
Are you planning to take the 3.6 to Laguna for the Vintage races this September?

*if* i can my stuff together by then ... right now, there's a lot of *ifs* ...

but i would love to go out and play ...
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post Mar 14 2006, 04:54 PM
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Doug Gale with Trackmasters might allow a 914 run group if we had enough interest to create a forth group.


I'll mention it to him.


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post Mar 14 2006, 04:57 PM
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My car will be track ready very soon.. and a group like trackmasters sound like fun!

New job when summer starts (double my current pay.. and 8-5 mon-fri) will make this a reality!

Dad has been missing some track action as well...


Keep me informed..
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post Mar 14 2006, 05:10 PM
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Trackmasters will let you run conversion cars.
The organizer, Doug, actually had a 914-v8 at one time.

He's 914 friendly. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)


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post Mar 14 2006, 05:17 PM
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Andrew,

Why don't you lead the charge for the West Coast 914 contingent? Pick a few dates out of the upcoming Calendar for Coastal Driving School, Trackmasters or NCRC and take a poll? Chances are you will find several of us already out there. (Greg, Trekkor, Dan T., me).

Greg and SirAndy are right, it is alot of work to put on these things. And very expensive. And safety is a big deal. The last thing we want is someone hurt or wadding up their toy. Learn in one of these structured environments. Once that happens, you'll be surprised how close we get to each other at high speeds. And safely.

We are always taking a risk when out on the track, but the more you run together, the more you know each other's strengths and weaknesses and styles, and can adjust for it.

And as far as your car, any of these organizations will let you run.

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post Mar 14 2006, 05:21 PM
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Thats good to know Bill!

I'll do some research on the schools already out there and see if theres any interest.

Andrew
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post Mar 14 2006, 07:37 PM
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These guys aren't 914 specific, but definitely run-what-you-brung so the V8 914 would be fine. This is where I took the beast out for test runs every month from Oct-Jan when I tore it back down for the chassis work.

http://www.americancarracing.com/events.html
http://www.opentrackracing.com/

They are kinda one in the same as they take turns scheduling every-other-month. It was $145 for the day and included lunch (but typically a Weekday - Wednesday pretty common). Really great way to get some track time!

Jack Olsen on the Bird Board runs in almost every one of these events, so if you go to that board you may have seen him list them in his threads. Last month was cancelled because they didn't have enough pre-registrations. That means typically there is a decent turn-out, but not so many cars you can't have any fun, and it would be nice to see a few more sign-ups. I couldn't go obviously, but will be right back out with them when the car is back together. Fair amount of 911s there.

NOT W2W of course (I think the red group has done it if it was a small amount of guys that all agreed) but fun. However, if big tracks seem scary, may not be the best choice as Turn 8 is easily over 100mph and somewhat rough, and T9 can get exciting if you go in too hot. The front straight I can get even faster with the V8 acceleration and then T1 can be fun.

My understanding (as I don't have a speedo, just tach, but guys I was running with in T8 told me their speeds) is that T8 I was around 120-ish without really hanging the car out, and I would have to guess around 140 down the straights just holding at 5000rpm (meaning had I had a cage I would have probably went for it and tried to get 160-ish). They weren't going as fast to confirm it.

I saw one guy claim he ran T8 at 155 in a built 914, but I personally think that was BS. I think Roger Sheridan's car was somewhere in the mid to upper 130s and can believe that with a well set-up car. With the 9" wide Hoosiers 120-ish was pushing it in my car, so to tack on another 10-15mph isn't going to be easy (why I think 155 is a load of (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/stromberg.gif) )

Long winded... but my point is maybe just get a bunch of 914 guys together and go out together on one of their events. No issue with setting stuff up and price is right.
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post Mar 14 2006, 08:06 PM
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Im still running a 901! so mid 140's is my top....


No fing way i'd take any corner at over 100 without a wing or an underbody!!! That ass gets light....



I'll have this idea in my head, and i'll post some of my idea's later..
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post Mar 14 2006, 08:08 PM
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Club Race Arizona will will sell a run group at their events for as few as 10 cars. They will tailer the group to the needs/desires of the participants. Anything from DE1with instructors through DE4. They run their events at Phoenix International Raceway, and the three different tracks at Firebird International Raceway.

914s running as one group could be a problem. You will get every thing from pure stock cars to 3.6L air cooled monstors, to track cars. Vast differences in speeds can prove problematic to drivers without lost of track experience. Still, would prove to be fun.
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post Mar 14 2006, 11:11 PM
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FWIW, last year's prices, don't know if they have changed.

Streets of Willow
track 2200
ins 700
corner workers 800
ems 800

So $4500 for a full day.

Money is one thing, but we couldn't have done it at WCC without Drew and the POC gang organizing and teaching. Those guys made the event possible.
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post Mar 14 2006, 11:18 PM
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I think EMS at 800 is dirt cheap..
I think EMS out here is 1500/day

its not the expenses so much as the liability.

5K is one thing...
but having the proper waivers in place and making sure no one gets sued after their 100K "accident" is a whole nother game.

the reason the colorado track event is taggin onto a PCA DE in May!

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post Mar 15 2006, 12:12 AM
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Andrew,

this idea is still very much alive... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)

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A few of us are planning a ThunderHill track day for Porsche V8's next summer.

Will plan to have these locals attend:
911 twin turbo V8 - Bud
914 twin turbo V8, 930 gearbox - Rick
914 700hp NASCAR V8, 930 gearbox, 935 susp, track car - Elmer
914 500+ hp V8 w/ZF gearbox, track/street - Harry
914 500+ hp V8 w/ZF gearbox, full cage, AIR Gr5 body - Chris
914 475 hp V8 Brodix, 930 gearbox, flared, Fiske wheels - Mike
914 400hp Edelbrock, Chalon body - Felix
914 V8's multiple @250-350 hp - Andrew, Roger, ...
944 LT1's Mike, Taka
928 V8's
All the SoCal 914 V8's including Terry's 500hp track car
and anyone who can make it.

We'll "challenge" Renegades, Rod Simpson, Desert Hybrids, and Reddawg's to bring their best for a "shootout"...

I should be FUN!!!
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