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> Metal questions, type, working, lathe
Mueller
post Mar 14 2006, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE (stock93 @ Mar 14 2006, 03:57 PM)
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What program are you using to drive the stepper motors? Where can I find out more on this? I'm interested in doing this myself eventually.

John

Currently I am using TurboCNC, it's a DOS program that works fairly well.....

Sooner or later I'll be switching over to Mach 2 or Mach 3 for windoze(really in addition to, for another mill of mine)

I use BobCAD for generating the codes, BobCAD can also draw the part, but I find using Pro/E and SolidWorks easier
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post Mar 14 2006, 05:44 PM
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Cool. Thanks Mueller. Now I just have to get my own lathe and mill.

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post Mar 14 2006, 06:49 PM
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Doc the file you can use is similar to a bondo file removes alum quick so hang on. Heh Mike whats wrong with still being in the stone age this is kind of like what I do for a living LOL (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/poke.gif)
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post Mar 14 2006, 06:54 PM
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I have been able to get a great brushed finish just by using a 4" belt sander with fairly coarse sandpaper. It only takes a few seconds but I guess large sheets would be difficult. I was doing 3" Al blocks. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif)
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post Mar 14 2006, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE (spunone @ Mar 14 2006, 05:49 PM)
Doc the file you can use is similar to a bondo file removes alum quick so hang on. Heh Mike whats wrong with still being in the stone age this is kind of like what I do for a living LOL (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/poke.gif)

my good lathe is still manual (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)

in fact I have a new product I'd like to make (made one) but cutting the threads is a PITA so I'm trying like mad to get my other small lathe converted to CNC to save some cranking of the handwheels....

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post Mar 14 2006, 07:31 PM
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Check out Columbia Coatings for the "Black Chrome" look.

http://www.columbiacoatings.com/1152andupt...45erfrg5467.htm

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post Mar 14 2006, 07:33 PM
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I hear that we do metal spinnig by hand for most jobs but I also have a CNC lathe for production so as not to wear out me and the fellas. Coverting sounds like a great idea see as if ya job it out there goes the price (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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post Mar 14 2006, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE (spunone @ Mar 14 2006, 06:33 PM)
I hear that we do metal spinnig by hand for most jobs but I also have a CNC lathe for production so as not to wear out me and the fellas. Coverting sounds like a great idea see as if ya job it out there goes the price (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

you do metal spinning??? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smiley_notworthy.gif)

that is something I want to try so I can make my own air horns for my throttle bodies......I have an instructional DVD as well as this I found on the web: metal spinning

when I first started at this company, one of the parts I needed to qualify a machine shop for was a spun alum part for one of the big semiconductor manufactures...being a newbie, I was totally blown away to see such an old school method being used to make parts for a multi-million dollar tool....it's neat to see those guys with the 6 foot long poles "working" the metal.....

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post Mar 14 2006, 07:55 PM
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Mike,
I get it now, CNC sounds very nice. Maybe this summer when I am on break.

As for anodizing, I am not too thrilled by the look for what I am going to use it for. I used to work with an anodizer quite a bit in a previous life, so I have some back ground.

You can powder coat with clear or a tinted clear like what I am looking for and it will not fill in the finish, unless I am mistaken. I am not talking about solids, rather smokey clears.
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Steven,
I looked at columbia already, but I can not get a good enough shot that shows the fine details. I guess I will call them and ask.
thanks
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post Mar 14 2006, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE (Dr Evil @ Mar 14 2006, 06:59 PM)
Steven,
I looked at columbia already, but I can not get a good enough shot that shows the fine details. I guess I will call them and ask.
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Mike,

I had some Black Chrome wheels on my Jetta for a while and the finish looks very like the letterbox (I think that's waht it is) on the link I gave you..

Good Luck.
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post Mar 14 2006, 09:06 PM
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One more thing Doc may want to check with the PC fellas on the finish have seen some coatings totaly fill in the satin finish if not to deep. Mueller ya got a PM (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 15 2006, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE (Mueller @ Mar 14 2006, 03:25 PM)
QUOTE (stock93 @ Mar 14 2006, 03:57 PM)
Mueller,
What program are you using to drive the stepper motors? Where can I find out more on this? I'm interested in doing this myself eventually.

John

Currently I am using TurboCNC, it's a DOS program that works fairly well.....

Sooner or later I'll be switching over to Mach 2 or Mach 3 for windoze(really in addition to, for another mill of mine)

I use BobCAD for generating the codes, BobCAD can also draw the part, but I find using Pro/E and SolidWorks easier

DeltaCad is also really easy to use/ setup. And when you get really high end, you'll want MasterCam or GibbsCam for writing your NC programs AND one of the aforementioned programs to implement it.

AND HOLY JEEZE. Metal spinning is really a dying art. I'm glad there are still people who know it. Ive been fiddling with it, trial and error. I do ok, but I can't find anyone who actually knows it to teach me.
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post Mar 15 2006, 01:06 AM
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QUOTE (alpha434 @ Mar 14 2006, 11:54 PM)
you get really high end, you'll want MasterCam or GibbsCam for writing your NC programs AND one of the aforementioned programs to implement it.

I've played with a "demo" version of MasterCam, awesome software.....for me it;s a hobby so I don't plan on spending the $15,000 or so they want for it.....neat stuff, but thats for the pro shops making big bucks everyday, not for someone who's shop is only 8 feet x 16 feet (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)
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MasterCam costs $125 for a periphial version. I have versions 9 and 10 in full, with all the extra features. The full version of 9 costed me 400$ and 10 was only a 75$ upgrade fee, since my 9 was under warranty. Gibbscam starts at 800 for the full version. I have the student version of it, and that was given to me by one of their company representitives.
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