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sk8kat1
post Mar 17 2006, 08:59 PM
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I wanted to get some 140# springs .. I bought some used ones and they seemed short and not 140#... but I wasn't sure because they were not marked

so I broke down and bought some that I knew were 140# they were marked

well I got the new ones and they are huge!

so what are the ones I got used they seem to measure out almost ident the yellow are about 1/16 th tighter coil



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post Mar 17 2006, 09:19 PM
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did you just go to ebay and buy the 1st 140 springs you saw?

you can measure them if you do a search

do you have adj. perches?
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post Mar 17 2006, 09:26 PM
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nope bought from a club member
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post Mar 17 2006, 09:28 PM
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you got hosed (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

the 140 welts (on left) are about 1.5" shorter than stock....
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post Mar 17 2006, 09:47 PM
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so are what I bought cut downs of a normal spring?.....well I guess you live and learn... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sheeplove.gif)
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post Mar 18 2006, 04:45 AM
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Only true way to check lb'age is to put weights on the spring till it compresses 1in.
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post Mar 18 2006, 10:06 AM
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the progressives that came on my silver car didn't require spring compressors to lossen the top cap. you will def need one if you plan on installing the black ones? you wanted to originally install the yellows? measure the height of them and compare that to the spring length on an assembled rear shock setup. you may find the yellow(?) ones might work. i'm kinda confussed as to which way you want to go.

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post Mar 18 2006, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE (sk8kat1 @ Mar 17 2006, 07:26 PM)
nope bought from a club member

That would be me. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)

Those were on my car for the last 3 years. Only reason why they are still not on there is I went to #150 springs with adjustable peraches. I guess a PO before me somewhere cut them down to help lower the car since it didn't have adjustable pearches before now.

I can honestly say I didn't know they were cut down. A third party that did the spring swap and a few other things on my car offered to send them to Mike since he had the parts from my car.

Mike I sent you a PM. I don't want anyone unhappy with what they buy from me. I don't do business like that. So please accept this open apology. - Garold
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post Mar 18 2006, 07:57 PM
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There's an awesome way to handle a sale! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)

WTG Garold (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif)

The 140 progressives (the ones on the left) might need just a 'little' coaxing to get under the stock hat but not much in my experience.

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post Mar 18 2006, 08:21 PM
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gerold pm sent ....... I think i might have worded it poorly .. I really have no hard feelings about it ... I bought sight unseen with out even a picture , my bad...... I kinda figured after the fact that maybe the PO had told gerold that they were 140# and that info was just being passed along ( it would be the first time a PO made an untrue statement about a car)

the WTF was more about how much taller the welts were .. it was kinda a shock ...

not much more than that ... gerold amd I have worked it out it's all cool
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post Mar 18 2006, 08:24 PM
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ok and now to seem even more of a loser... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)


is right side up on the springs when you can read the print on them ? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif)
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post Mar 18 2006, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE (sk8kat1 @ Mar 18 2006, 07:24 PM)
ok and now to seem even more of a loser... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)


is right side up on the springs when you can read the print on them ?  :blink:

does it MATTER?

a spring is a spring no matter which way you push on it....

if you are SUPER ANAL.... you could put the tightly wound side (heavy side) toward the body, as this would microscopically improve your unsprung weight.... ( i think... isnt half the shock/spring considered unsprung and the other half sprung?)
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post Mar 18 2006, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Mar 18 2006, 06:38 PM)
QUOTE (sk8kat1 @ Mar 18 2006, 07:24 PM)
ok and now to seem even more of a loser... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)


is right side up on the springs when you can read the print on them ?  :blink:

does it MATTER?


I dunno that's why I am asking (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)
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post Mar 18 2006, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE (sk8kat1 @ Mar 18 2006, 07:58 PM)
QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Mar 18 2006, 06:38 PM)
QUOTE (sk8kat1 @ Mar 18 2006, 07:24 PM)
ok and now to seem even more of a loser... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)


is right side up on the springs when you can read the print on them ?  :blink:

does it MATTER?


I dunno that's why I am asking (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)

see the answer right below those 2 words.....
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post Mar 18 2006, 09:06 PM
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I didn't pick up if that was a for sure answer or an if I remember correctly answer


ok .. thanks for the help again ... it really is greatly aprciated
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post Mar 18 2006, 09:09 PM
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I'm sure if Andy were feeling better he'd pop in here and beat on you Aaron. I can't remember which way progressives go, but do a search.
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QUOTE (McMark @ Mar 18 2006, 08:09 PM)
I'm sure if Andy were feeling better he'd pop in here and beat on you Aaron. I can't remember which way progressives go, but do a search.

he seems to think that running it one way it "starts at XXXX and the other way XXX "

i dont buy it... but im not a physics major....
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post Mar 18 2006, 09:11 PM
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Here, read this.
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post Mar 18 2006, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE (McMark @ Mar 18 2006, 08:11 PM)
Here, read this.

im with thorshammer on that one....

show me empirical data....
for now - old wives tale..... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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post Mar 18 2006, 09:19 PM
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I think it's the standard issue of engineers looking at math and not realizing the assumption they are making. Using a spring compressor to measure spring rate IS NOT THE SAME FORCES as a spring experiences in a car. So you can't compare the two. But I have no data or experience, so I'll shut up after this post unless some asks me a question. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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