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VegasRacer |
Mar 20 2006, 03:59 AM
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ELVIRA Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,493 Joined: 27-March 03 From: Between Scylla and Charybdis Member No.: 481 Region Association: None |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) About 1K+ per weekend.
That is after everything else is in place. Is your car prepped to race? Do you have all of the safety gear that is required? Have you even got a competition license? How are you getting the car to the track? (Tow vehicle and trailer) The list goes on. The $1000+ figure does not include anything bad that happens to the car. Miss a shift at redline = $$$ Somebody punts you off the track fighting for a corner = $$$ Do you need more examples? Whether or not to go racing is an emotional question. It is impossible to justify the expense to anyone else. Sometimes it is even difficult to rationalize it to yourself. When something happens that has you loaded on the trailer before the green flag drops, it is very depressing. On the other hand, the high that you get when things go well is priceless. |
ChrisFoley |
Mar 20 2006, 06:19 AM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,911 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
Wheel to wheel racing - $600 a day.
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ChrisFoley |
Mar 20 2006, 06:20 AM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,911 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
The agony of defeat - much more $$
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ChrisFoley |
Mar 20 2006, 06:21 AM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,911 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
The thrill of victory - Priceless.
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jhadler |
Mar 20 2006, 10:00 AM
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Long term tinkerer... Group: Members Posts: 1,879 Joined: 7-April 03 From: Lyons, CO Member No.: 529 |
Racing, or other competition driving, can be as expensive as you want.
Contrary to what alpha said, your skill level does not in any way dictate what level pf preparation you need to put into your car. There are a lot of great venues for competition with the 914. It makes a superb autox car, and out here you can find at least two events (or more) a month in summer. SCCA has a very active autox scene, PCA has a few events, but nowhere near as much as SCCA. BMWCCA has a series as well, and they take all comers. Figure costs can be as little as $50 a weekend. Registration fees, lunch, and gas. If you keep your car bone stock, additional expenses are pretty minimal. If you -want- to prep your car for higher levels, you can. Just read the rules for whatever class you choose to compete in. Read 'em three times before spending a dime. Sometimes a seemingly simple modification can bump you into the trailer-riding-fire-breathing-monster classes. Then if you want to step to track events, there are number of events at Pueblo this year. DE's are an excellent way to get track time in a more controlled setting than a full wheel-to-wheel race. Fees for DE's tend to run between $100 and $200 a day depending on the club and the track. DE's are non-competitive events. There are no trophies, but you learn the skills that you can take with you to competition events. And don't forget gas and lodging, as these events tend to be "away" events for most people... Up from there is Time Trials. PCA, SCCA, NASA all have TT programs. Figure similar costs as DE's for entry fees but tak on additional costs for transponder rentals, and gas. And as it's a competition format event, keep in mind tire costs. Comeptition tires run from as little as $125 a tire to as much as $250 a tire for "street legal" race tires. Expect to go through two sets a season. Then we've got wheel to wheel. Here the fees are a lot higher, and the costs of running a car in wheel to wheel competition go up as well. Tire costs will go up. Car preparation costs go up as well. Even if you kept the car "stock". You've got the cage, fire system, suit, and all the safety gear. Then you've got car prep above and beyond that. Motorsports can be as expensive as you want it to be.... Just ask Brant... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) Come on out to the La Junta event!!! I'm hoping to have my car back together and running by then... -Josh2 |
brant |
Mar 20 2006, 10:08 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,615 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Josh, you had better be there!
I'm counting on you... how is your throat feeling? You sound a little horse? don't you think you need to take a "sick day" (and work on that motor why you are home!) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) brant |
SGB |
Mar 20 2006, 10:28 AM
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just visiting Group: Members Posts: 4,086 Joined: 8-March 03 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 404 Region Association: South East States |
JPB- Summit is a great rack I think. I've been to the Little 500 scca weekend there as a spectator. My brother in Alexandria has a 911 and he has driven it. His PCA region has used it for DEs I think. It should be a fun drive! |
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John Se |
Mar 20 2006, 10:43 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Scottsdale AZ Member No.: 5,579 |
I never add it up, that would spoil it. Just do it, you cant take your money with you. You probably only have a small window in your life where its even possible. Wanting to do something and living with regret is unbearable for me, racers make sacrifices..........big sacrifices. The definition of a "season" also changes relative to financial ability. Good years I can get out 8 weekends, not so good just a couple! Karting is much less expensive and made me a better driver, very physical though. figure 2000 a weekend, racing cars depreciate parts fast!
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jhadler |
Mar 20 2006, 10:49 AM
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Long term tinkerer... Group: Members Posts: 1,879 Joined: 7-April 03 From: Lyons, CO Member No.: 529 |
I have to admit, I haven't put a minute of work into the car in many weeks. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif) The little one is getting all my attentions... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wub.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wub.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wub.gif) Mom and Sara are going to visit the great grandparents again at the end of April, so I suspect that will be the window of oportunity that I'll have to get the car back together. I'll let you know the days, when it gets closer. Might have a more involved car assemebly "party" then. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/welder.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sawzall-smiley.gif) Brant, do I need to "class" my car for the event? Haven't run with PCA in years, so I'm not too sure what class my car would be in... -Josh2 |
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turboman808 |
Mar 20 2006, 10:56 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,718 Joined: 31-January 06 From: North Jersey Member No.: 5,505 Region Association: North East States |
Biggest thing for me was the time. I just couldn't commit that much time to racing. I much rather race bicycles then cars. Not to mention it's better for me(except the crashes).
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TROJANMAN |
Mar 20 2006, 11:00 AM
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Looks nice in pictures......... Group: Members Posts: 5,249 Joined: 5-March 04 From: Colorado Member No.: 1,753 Region Association: None |
brew,
the local pca is having an A/X weekend on April 1st at DIA. You should come up. The first day is a training day, and the second day is timed. More Info |
brant |
Mar 20 2006, 11:15 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,615 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Josh...
classification.. hmmm... you have stock brakes right and carbs and is your flywheel lightened... and are those rims 8inch? top of my head says: thinking... 5 points for rims 2 points for carbs I'm guessing Improved #1 same class I'm running my stock F.I. black car in (I'm bumped into this class due to my brakes) won't matter too much anyways.. your not probably running the whole season for the points championship so doesn't matter. what matters is whom you get to drive with on the track. and if you have Lajunta previous experience you could make the arguement to bump out of novice. (although i might run in novice, just because the 914 only run group is going to be a mostly novice run group, and I want to be on the track with 20 other teeners!) brant |
brant |
Mar 20 2006, 11:17 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,615 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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kdfoust |
Mar 20 2006, 12:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 694 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Riverside Member No.: 71 Region Association: Southern California |
Q: How do you make a million bucks racing a Porsche? A: Start with two million! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/av-943.gif) Running a stock class car in POC STS series I figure $500 out of pocket for the weekend. The additional big expenses for car maintenance (my car '90S2) amount to 1 additional set of tires/year and 1.5 sets of brake pads/year. There are those incidental things that'll add up over time (liters of Castrol LMA, additional oil changes, ... ) but I'm not tracking them. So far I'm not breaking many things so that's not been an issue (knock on wood) and I'm having tons of fun. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) On your mark, get set, go! Later, Kevin |
jt914/6 |
Mar 23 2006, 07:43 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 26-March 05 From: Greenville S.C. Member No.: 3,823 |
Best answer is as much as you want to spend and how fast do you want to go? Fastest 2 liter cars run in HSR East and engines alone can run $40,000 because they are making 225-240 hp. A top flight car can cost $75000-$100,000 to build. These cars are running 2:08 at Daytona, 2:26 at Sebring. Pretty amazing when you consider Grand Am GS 996's are only running 2:03 at Daytona and Rolex GT cars 1:55 at Daytona with 400 hp. All that said one can have just as much fun doing DE's and running a stock 4. The fun is in the competition at whatever level you choose to compete at.
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street legal go-kart |
Mar 23 2006, 08:03 PM
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Miss Mari's slave Group: Members Posts: 437 Joined: 28-March 03 From: sierra nevada ,cali . Member No.: 490 |
Buy a kart.
We run at all the major road courses plus a bunch of short tracks. Total cost for 11 races last year was 2218.76 Sportsman heavy, 100cc Yamaha spec , used Emmic chassis. Absolutely the best bang for the buck. JT p.s. My wife won't let me do anything but a/x the black car (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wub.gif) |
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